Political Hippo Circle Jerk - America, farg YEAH!

[rjs246]

Yeah that's the spirit. Sink to their level so that everyone is mired down in the muck. Waterboarding is effective!

Prove to me that it isn't effective.

What a smug, obtuse response. I can feel the stink of it sticking to me. Ugh. Are you a farging idiot? Are you so clueless that you don't comprehend what I'm saying?

When we stoop to torture we give up any high ground we have. We sink to the level of the people that we hold in such contempt.

But no, anything to protect us from hypothetical kooks half a world away. Sell our souls in the name of jinogistic patriotism and 'protection'. Disgusting.

[mpmcgraw]

Those who are willing to give up a little liberty for a little a security deserve neither.

More appropriate for the Patriot Act, but it still works here.

[bowzer]

Like I said... war is war... and if the information we gained from waterboarding saved American lives.. than I'm all for it.

[mpmcgraw]

Which there is zero proof of.

[bowzer]

Yeah that's the spirit. Sink to their level so that everyone is mired down in the muck. Waterboarding is effective!

Prove to me that it isn't effective.

What a smug, obtuse response. I can feel the stink of it sticking to me. Ugh. Are you a farging idiot? Are you so clueless that you don't comprehend what I'm saying?

When we stoop to torture we give up any high ground we have. We sink to the level of the people that we hold in such contempt.

But no, anything to protect us from hypothetical kooks half a world away. Sell our souls in the name of jinogistic patriotism and 'protection'. Disgusting.

And to be honest.. to think to this type of stuff hasn't happened in every war since the beginning of time.. you are kidding yourself.

[bowzer]

Which there is zero proof of.

And where's the proof that it wasn't effective?  Like I said, I'll take the statements of intelligence officials than the word of liberals...

Quickly, go make a pledge to the ACLU... they aren't going to be able to stalk and tail all those CIA agents and take their pictures without more funds...

[rjs246]

Yeah that's the spirit. Sink to their level so that everyone is mired down in the muck. Waterboarding is effective!

Prove to me that it isn't effective.

What a smug, obtuse response. I can feel the stink of it sticking to me. Ugh. Are you a farging idiot? Are you so clueless that you don't comprehend what I'm saying?

When we stoop to torture we give up any high ground we have. We sink to the level of the people that we hold in such contempt.

But no, anything to protect us from hypothetical kooks half a world away. Sell our souls in the name of jinogistic patriotism and 'protection'. Disgusting.

And to be honest.. to think to this type of stuff hasn't happened in every war since the beginning of time.. you are kidding yourself.

So that makes it ok to publicly sanction it? To announce to the world that we are not who we have always claimed to be? Please.

Edit: And now you're attacking the ACLU. The only organization (aside from the NRA) which actually is tasked to protect us from the government. The government that Right-ists claim we need protection from.

You are a farging piece of work.

[bowzer]

So that makes it ok to publicly sanction it? To announce to the world that we are not who we have always claimed to be? Please.

Should we stop waterboarding Navy Seals?
Wasn't that part of the training regiment back in the day?

[mpmcgraw]

I think don't waterboard anyone is probably a decent rule of thumb.

[bowzer]

Yeah that's the spirit. Sink to their level so that everyone is mired down in the muck. Waterboarding is effective!

Prove to me that it isn't effective.

What a smug, obtuse response. I can feel the stink of it sticking to me. Ugh. Are you a farging idiot? Are you so clueless that you don't comprehend what I'm saying?

When we stoop to torture we give up any high ground we have. We sink to the level of the people that we hold in such contempt.

But no, anything to protect us from hypothetical kooks half a world away. Sell our souls in the name of jinogistic patriotism and 'protection'. Disgusting.

And to be honest.. to think to this type of stuff hasn't happened in every war since the beginning of time.. you are kidding yourself.

So that makes it ok to publicly sanction it? To announce to the world that we are not who we have always claimed to be? Please.

Edit: And now you're attacking the ACLU. The only organization (aside from the NRA) which actually is tasked to protect us from the government. The government that Right-ists claim we need protection from.

You are a farging piece of work.

On Jan. 21, 1968, The Washington Post published a front-page photograph of a U.S. soldier supervising the questioning of a captured North Vietnamese soldier who is being held down as water was poured on his face while his nose and mouth were covered by a cloth. The picture, taken four days earlier near Da Nang, had a caption that said the technique induced "a flooding sense of suffocation and drowning, meant to make him talk."

The article said the practice was "fairly common" in part because "those who practice it say it combines the advantages of being unpleasant enough to make people talk while still not causing permanent injury."


Looks like it was going on back then too.  

[rjs246]

Way to use Vietnam as an example of the good old days of American war tactics.

[bowzer]

Yeah that's the spirit. Sink to their level so that everyone is mired down in the muck. Waterboarding is effective!

Prove to me that it isn't effective.

What a smug, obtuse response. I can feel the stink of it sticking to me. Ugh. Are you a farging idiot? Are you so clueless that you don't comprehend what I'm saying?

When we stoop to torture we give up any high ground we have. We sink to the level of the people that we hold in such contempt.

But no, anything to protect us from hypothetical kooks half a world away. Sell our souls in the name of jinogistic patriotism and 'protection'. Disgusting.

And to be honest.. to think to this type of stuff hasn't happened in every war since the beginning of time.. you are kidding yourself.

So that makes it ok to publicly sanction it? To announce to the world that we are not who we have always claimed to be? Please.

Edit: And now you're attacking the ACLU. The only organization (aside from the NRA) which actually is tasked to protect us from the government. The government that Right-ists claim we need protection from.

You are a farging piece of work.

Are you kidding me with the ACLU? The only thing they are protecting as leftists as crazy as them?  And members of NAMBLA.

[bowzer]

Way to use Vietnam as an example of the good old days of American war tactics.

Just showing that it's obviously been sanctioned before.  Pretty sure an Evil Republican wasn't in office then though.

[mpmcgraw]

Way to use Vietnam as an example of the good old days of American war tactics.

Yea I mean we used Agent Orange then so we can use it now too right?

[rjs246]

Well that certainly is an ignorant and uninformed opinion on the ACLU. Read up.

I'm done responding to you. You're views are so far out of whack with anything I see as a reasonable priority list that I don't even know how to address you without getting angry at this point.