Political Hippo Circle Jerk - America, farg YEAH!

[Butchers Bill]

The good news is the US has a pathetically low attention span and worse long-term memory.  After all, American Idol is on.   

I just spent the last three weeks traveling across the country listening to small business owners, non-profit directors, and others who are feeling the full brunt of whats going on right now.  The economy isn't getting better anytime soon, its going to get a lot worse.  There are a lot of people out there who believe the stimulus is only going to the "bankers".  Now obviously thats not true, they are confusing it with TARP, but the point is after spending trillions the Dems and Obama had better show some results.  If we are still at 10% unemployment and 3-4% negative growth in 2012 anything can happen.

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

No Republican is winning the Presidency in 2012.  The party's done.

Another feather in W's cap..he destroyed his own party ...Endorsing Specter was really a big help.   It's hard to believe how far reaching his incompetence was/is 

The smilies really enhance  the point you're trying to make! 

If we are still at 10% unemployment and 3-4% negative growth in 2012 anything can happen.

Sure.  Not going to happen, and if it does, the current incarnation of the Republican party certainly won't have the answer for it either.

[Sgt PSN]

The President gets too much blame when things go bad and too much credit when they turn for the better. 

agreed 100%.  the president does not drive the economy or job market.  however, the president can still have either a positive or negative affect.  the economy was showing signs of collapsing towards the end of his first term and he had an opportunity to at least help lessen the blow to prevent us from nearly bottoming out completely.  but instead he had complete and total tunnel vision on iraq during his entire reign of terror and completely ignored nearly every other responsibility of being president.  

the economy and stock market and real estate markets and job markets fluctuate.  always have, always will.  we shouldn't expect our elected leaders to make adversity and hard times just magically disappear but what we should expect them to do is have the fore sight to identify potential problems and be proactive in establishing measures that will make the hard times a little more manageable for the people they govern.  

[Geowhizzer]

No Republican is winning the Presidency in 2012.  The party's done.

Unless something unforeseen happens (Obama implodes; some kind of disaster, etc.), I can't see the Republicans winning in 2012, either.

The pendulum will swing back at some point, though.  It's the way of politics.

[SD_Eagle5]

Just an FYI, I'm doing an apprentice/internship over the summer at the VA center in Phila. Upon graduation I have a job with a decent starting salary waiting for me, this 'job' was created by the stimulus package.

[Butchers Bill]

Just an FYI, I'm doing an apprentice/internship over the summer at the VA center in Phila. Upon graduation I have a job with a decent starting salary waiting for me, this 'job' was created by the stimulus package.

Which is exactly why it isn't "stimulus".  I am happy for you that you'll have employment, but assuming that you will work for the VA you will be working for the government and will be a future tax liability.  A stimulus should create private sector employment but all I have seen so far is it creating or saving government work which is not a sustainable business model.

If your job is with a private agency great...that could be "real" stimulus.  If its government work its not.

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

Well, SD did use single-quotes around 'job,' so he knows what's up.

[ATV]

100 days of "Fair & Balanced"...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=35eRxxZ-Ar0

[ice grillin you]

100 days of "Fair & Balanced"...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=35eRxxZ-Ar0

wow


gotta say tho that "comisar obama" was funny

[SD_Eagle5]

I go back and forth between Hannity and Rush on who I despise more, this week it's Hannity.

[shorebird]

Just an FYI, I'm doing an apprentice/internship over the summer at the VA center in Phila. Upon graduation I have a job with a decent starting salary waiting for me, this 'job' was created by the stimulus package.

assuming that you will work for the VA you will be working for the government and will be a future tax liability.  A stimulus should create private sector employment but all I have seen so far is it creating or saving government work which is not a sustainable business model.

Eggfargin'zackly!

[SD_Eagle5]

The VA has expanded coverage for Vets which is why the job was created. Regarldess if it's private sector or not, it's a new job and will help with unemployment. But keep harping on the private sector points Rush and Hannity. Originally the bill wasn't creating jobs now it's not creating the jobs you'd like. And yes I understand a private sector job opening is more crucial to our economy at this point, I was simply trying to point out that the Stimulus DID create jobs, nothing more, nothing less. But keep running with your right winged agenda whackos, there was a reason I didn't reply to this subject till now.

[SD_Eagle5]

Just an FYI, I'm doing an apprentice/internship over the summer at the VA center in Phila. Upon graduation I have a job with a decent starting salary waiting for me, this 'job' was created by the stimulus package.

Which is exactly why it isn't "stimulus".  I am happy for you that you'll have employment, but assuming that you will work for the VA you will be working for the government and will be a future tax liability.  A stimulus should create private sector employment but all I have seen so far is it creating or saving government work which is not a sustainable business model.

If your job is with a private agency great...that could be "real" stimulus.  If its government work its not.

And as far as my new job being called a 'future tax liability', I didn't realize helping Vets with their disabilities was now considered an economic burden. I always felt the country was obligated to those who put themselves in harms way for the benefit of our nation.

[Diomedes]

for conservatives, troops are good only while they serve.  once injured or discharged, they are tantamount to welfare freeloaders who should suck it up and stay hidden

kinda like fetuses..good only while in the womb, farg 'em afterwards

[ice grillin you]

i guess a govt job is no good even if it helps someone save his home his car or feeds his children

putting people back to work definitely doesnt help the economy