Donte' Stallworth

Started by BigSaint8050, November 07, 2006, 09:44:31 PM

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Father Demon

Stallworth will be an Eagle next season.
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The BIGSTUD

Quote from: Beermonkey on February 15, 2007, 05:51:01 PM
Quote from: King Cole on February 15, 2007, 05:15:22 PM
It isn't just Patterson. It is Patterson, Reggie Brown, Trent Cole. Even Dirk Johnson got an extension before the season if you remember.

All stupid moronic signings. I love Brown and Cole but they were just rookies last season. No point in locking them up long term now. At least in a way that immediately hurts your cap. Usually Banner is smarter about this type of stuff. I wonder what made him go against what he usually does which is save as much cap as you can, not spend it, then brag about how they are 40 million under.

OK then, how much did those extensions hurt this year's cap then?

They may have hurt it significantly or they may have not.  Are they the difference between an extra $15 million in cap space or $2-3 million?

That is the thing that is strange. That guy on the official Eagles board who's name is like 908408557574357 had the Eagles cap room projected to be 30 million BEFORE the extensions were factored in. Then it got lowered to 13-15 million somehow. I even remember reading back in the offseason that then Eagles were going to be in such great shape for the 2007 offseason with upwards of 30-40 million in cap space.

So I don't know what the hell is going on. I think Trent Cole and Reggie Brown's cap numbers for 2007 are huge though. Like 4+ million each.
Calling it right on the $ since day one.
Just pointing laughing, and living it up while watching the Miami Heat stink it up.

StevieLeftCollege

Quote from: King Cole on February 15, 2007, 06:03:57 PM
Quote from: Beermonkey on February 15, 2007, 05:51:01 PM
Quote from: King Cole on February 15, 2007, 05:15:22 PM
It isn't just Patterson. It is Patterson, Reggie Brown, Trent Cole. Even Dirk Johnson got an extension before the season if you remember.

All stupid moronic signings. I love Brown and Cole but they were just rookies last season. No point in locking them up long term now. At least in a way that immediately hurts your cap. Usually Banner is smarter about this type of stuff. I wonder what made him go against what he usually does which is save as much cap as you can, not spend it, then brag about how they are 40 million under.

OK then, how much did those extensions hurt this year's cap then?

They may have hurt it significantly or they may have not.  Are they the difference between an extra $15 million in cap space or $2-3 million?

That is the thing that is strange. That guy on the official Eagles board who's name is like 908408557574357 had the Eagles cap room projected to be 30 million BEFORE the extensions were factored in. Then it got lowered to 13-15 million somehow. I even remember reading back in the offseason that then Eagles were going to be in such great shape for the 2007 offseason with upwards of 30-40 million in cap space.

So I don't know what the hell is going on. I think Trent Cole and Reggie Brown's cap numbers for 2007 are huge though. Like 4+ million each.

That was the deal, but Andrews' bonus, along with another players bonus all got pushed into this year.


The BIGSTUD

Maybe all this was just an elaborate plan by Banner to make it so he has an excuse for not signing any big talent this offseason. Now for once he can say we didn't have the cap space.

But the funny thing is every one of you know the taterskins will end up with Dwight Freeney, Lance Briggs, and Donte Stallworth with a supposed like 200k of cap room.
Calling it right on the $ since day one.
Just pointing laughing, and living it up while watching the Miami Heat stink it up.

StevieLeftCollege

The taterskins can still sign whoever they want like any other year, but that is their cap management philosophy.

They sign and cut their players like nothing and always have dead money.

ice grillin you

These teams with big cap numbers have depleted rosters

chargers bears patriots saints and jets all say



the exact cost of patterson this year isnt as important as the flawed philosophy of the eagles choosing to reup players that either dont deserve to be and/or dont need to be isstead of signing top notch soon to be free agents
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Sgt PSN

Quote from: SunMo on February 15, 2007, 02:34:47 PM
finding words to describe how douchey and clueless you are is really becoming a challenge

You can always just say he's been Munsoned. 


Munson

Quote from: Sgt PSN on February 15, 2007, 10:11:08 PM
Quote from: SunMo on February 15, 2007, 02:34:47 PM
finding words to describe how douchey and clueless you are is really becoming a challenge

You can always just say he's been Munsoned. 



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Quote from: ice grillin you on April 01, 2008, 05:10:48 PM
perhaps you could explain sd's reasons for "disliking" it as well since you seem to be so in tune with other peoples minds

Rome

Quote from: King Cole on February 15, 2007, 05:15:22 PM
It isn't just Patterson. It is Patterson, Reggie Brown, Trent Cole. Even Dirk Johnson got an extension before the season if you remember.

All stupid moronic signings. I love Brown and Cole but they were just rookies last season. No point in locking them up long term now. At least in a way that immediately hurts your cap. Usually Banner is smarter about this type of stuff. I wonder what made him go against what he usually does which is save as much cap as you can, not spend it, then brag about how they are 40 million under.

Cole & Brown were not moronic signings and Johnson got chicken feed in the grand scheme of things.

Also - according to BJ's cap page, the Eagles are down to $9.5M in cap room as of yesterday.

Munson

They need to restructure some guys like Kearse and cut some guys like Dhani.
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 01, 2008, 05:10:48 PM
perhaps you could explain sd's reasons for "disliking" it as well since you seem to be so in tune with other peoples minds

The BIGSTUD

Quote from: Jerome99RIP on February 16, 2007, 01:34:39 AM
Quote from: King Cole on February 15, 2007, 05:15:22 PM
It isn't just Patterson. It is Patterson, Reggie Brown, Trent Cole. Even Dirk Johnson got an extension before the season if you remember.

All stupid moronic signings. I love Brown and Cole but they were just rookies last season. No point in locking them up long term now. At least in a way that immediately hurts your cap. Usually Banner is smarter about this type of stuff. I wonder what made him go against what he usually does which is save as much cap as you can, not spend it, then brag about how they are 40 million under.

Cole & Brown were not moronic signings and Johnson got chicken feed in the grand scheme of things.

Also - according to BJ's cap page, the Eagles are down to $9.5M in cap room as of yesterday.

Don't know how the hell that happened. They didn't sign anybody.
Calling it right on the $ since day one.
Just pointing laughing, and living it up while watching the Miami Heat stink it up.

Munson

Thanks for the new avatar Sarge.
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 01, 2008, 05:10:48 PM
perhaps you could explain sd's reasons for "disliking" it as well since you seem to be so in tune with other peoples minds

bobbyinlondon

Quote from: King Cole on February 16, 2007, 02:31:04 AM
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on February 16, 2007, 01:34:39 AM
Quote from: King Cole on February 15, 2007, 05:15:22 PM
It isn't just Patterson. It is Patterson, Reggie Brown, Trent Cole. Even Dirk Johnson got an extension before the season if you remember.

All stupid moronic signings. I love Brown and Cole but they were just rookies last season. No point in locking them up long term now. At least in a way that immediately hurts your cap. Usually Banner is smarter about this type of stuff. I wonder what made him go against what he usually does which is save as much cap as you can, not spend it, then brag about how they are 40 million under.

Cole & Brown were not moronic signings and Johnson got chicken feed in the grand scheme of things.

Also - according to BJ's cap page, the Eagles are down to $9.5M in cap room as of yesterday.

Don't know how the hell that happened. They didn't sign anybody.


That happened because he didn't count the roster bonuses this year for Westbrook or Andrews. He has since added them in--plus it looks like we only got 500K in LTBE rebates--these are incentives that hit the cap the following year if they are made in the year the contract was written. So, Garcia, who it was reported on philly.com last year signed a 1.1M contract, but he collected a total of 2.38M because he met all the incentive clauses in his deal. And before  anyone asks, only players with 9 years of service only count 450K towards the cap when they sign a contract.

Rome

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http://www.geocities.com/eaglescap/

I think the Eagles will be in much better cap shape next year because Runyan & Thomas will be coming off the books and that will free up close to 9 million in cap space (that's their combined cap hits in 2007).  Plus I think Kearse will be restructred (voidable years '09-'11) and a lot of the dead wood that's infecting the roster will be cleared out (McDougle, for instance).

Darren Howard's cap figure sticks out like a sore thumb at $4.2M as well.

Also - is anyone else amazed at Dhani Jones' projected salary for 2007?  $2.35M!

Ha!   :-D

ice grillin you

i think mcdougle is gone this year


btw here is pattersons 07 number for BM

2007: $6,765,000 (543,750 base salary+540K proration+281,250 proration+900K proration+4.5M roster bonus; $6,063,750 dead money if cut)
i can take a phrase thats rarely heard...flip it....now its a daily word

igy gettin it done like warrick

im the board pharmacist....always one step above yous