Donte' Stallworth

ice grillin you · February 15, 2007, 04:40:12 PM

yeah, I've seen your clever icon before, vigy. now...answer the question. how much less you think the Eagles will offer?

first youre assuming the eagles will even make an offer...and with the anti donte PR campaign they have been running for the last month im not so sure they will

but if they do theres at least 6-7 teams that will blow the eagles out of the water...the eagles have like the 5th fewest dollars available in the nfl...but what they DO have is mike patterson locked up until the hale bop returns

StevieLeftCollege · February 15, 2007, 04:48:43 PM

5 years and 25-30 million with about a 6-7.5 million SB would be joyous to retain his services.

Also, their Cap number can be altered to show more if they finagle the bonuses of Herrremans, Cole, Patterson, and Brown.

They forfeited dollars this year to have a huge number next year, but left the option to increase this years if a player of interest shows up.

Regardless, they are cacks if they dont sign Stall.

Diomedes · February 15, 2007, 04:48:50 PM

oh, alright. don't play along.

StevieLeftCollege · February 15, 2007, 04:55:50 PM

Play along to what?

Diomedes · February 15, 2007, 04:56:55 PM

not talking to you, Stevie

ice grillin you · February 15, 2007, 05:00:11 PM

i dont know what youre looking for and i dont care

5 years and 25-30 million with about a 6-7.5 million SB would be joyous to retain his services.

thats david givens money

stallworth will lap that

Diomedes · February 15, 2007, 05:01:55 PM

I'm asking how much less you think the Eagles would offer. It's a simple hypothetical question to while away the time, you know exactly what I'm asking, you just don't want to play along..that's cool

you're cool. so cool.

PhillyPhanInDC · February 15, 2007, 05:05:09 PM

FWIW, Stallworth and Garcia will be on NFL Network's Total Access Tonight at 7PM EST.

StevieLeftCollege · February 15, 2007, 05:05:42 PM

Quote from: Diomedes on February 15, 2007, 04:56:55 PM
not talking to you, Stevie

Werd yo.

StevieLeftCollege · February 15, 2007, 05:06:58 PM

Quote from: ice grillin you on February 15, 2007, 05:00:11 PM
i dont know what youre looking for and i dont care

5 years and 25-30 million with about a 6-7.5 million SB would be joyous to retain his services.

thats david givens money

stallworth will lap that

He should, but that is what the Eagles may offer.

ARE is garbaged and got paid last year by the Skins.

The BIGSTUD · February 15, 2007, 05:07:41 PM

Quote from: StevieLeftCollege on February 15, 2007, 04:48:43 PM
5 years and 25-30 million with about a 6-7.5 million SB would be joyous to retain his services.

Also, their Cap number can be altered to show more if they finagle the bonuses of Herrremans, Cole, Patterson, and Brown.

They forfeited dollars this year to have a huge number next year, but left the option to increase this years if a player of interest shows up.

Regardless, they are wonderbras if they dont sign Stall.

The thing that is going to piss people off if he doesn't come back isn't that he wasn't re-signed, but for how littlehe wasn't re-signed for.

If you think Stallworth is going to get more than 5/6 years and 25-30 million then IMO you are fooling yourself. With his injury history they'd be absolutely insane to spend the farm on Stallworth. Especially a team like the Titans who JUST got out of cap hell. I don't think they'll want to be going back.

I can see a team going to 35 million, but that is it.

Beermonkey · February 15, 2007, 05:12:49 PM

Quote from: ice grillin you on February 15, 2007, 04:40:12 PM..but what they DO have is mike patterson locked up until the hale bop returns

How much of this year's cap is being eaten up over the Patterson extension vs. what would have counted against otherwise?

The BIGSTUD · February 15, 2007, 05:15:22 PM

It isn't just Patterson. It is Patterson, Reggie Brown, Trent Cole. Even Dirk Johnson got an extension before the season if you remember.

All stupid moronic signings. I love Brown and Cole but they were just rookies last season. No point in locking them up long term now. At least in a way that immediately hurts your cap. Usually Banner is smarter about this type of stuff. I wonder what made him go against what he usually does which is save as much cap as you can, not spend it, then brag about how they are 40 million under.

StevieLeftCollege · February 15, 2007, 05:38:07 PM

Signing those guys to big extensions was foolish, they were only in their 2nd year. Normally they wait until the 3rd or 4th year of the deal.

I think the number I threw out there isnt unreasonable. Those numbers can be changed in form of SB and yearly contracts, but there are plenty of teams that can overpay for his services.

As far as cap hell, the Eagles wont be there for a long time. They have alot of players under contract next year and even more to spend.

These teams with big cap numbers have depleted rosters, the Eagles are returning 21 starters.

Beermonkey · February 15, 2007, 05:51:01 PM

Quote from: King Cole on February 15, 2007, 05:15:22 PM
It isn't just Patterson. It is Patterson, Reggie Brown, Trent Cole. Even Dirk Johnson got an extension before the season if you remember.

All stupid moronic signings. I love Brown and Cole but they were just rookies last season. No point in locking them up long term now. At least in a way that immediately hurts your cap. Usually Banner is smarter about this type of stuff. I wonder what made him go against what he usually does which is save as much cap as you can, not spend it, then brag about how they are 40 million under.

OK then, how much did those extensions hurt this year's cap then?

They may have hurt it significantly or they may have not. Are they the difference between an extra $15 million in cap space or $2-3 million?

Donte' Stallworth

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