Garcia - Eagle WR's seem like clones

Started by MURP, June 01, 2006, 02:13:58 PM

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reese125

Quote from: General_Failure on June 02, 2006, 12:36:44 AM
Quote from: reese125 on June 01, 2006, 10:23:23 PM
when your 36 and have been to 3 Probowls, you can say whatever the F you want.

No. He's a joke, a backup, and new to the team. He can say this and people can pick at it for days, but to say he can say anything is pretty farging stupid.

GF, Im not going to beat a dead horse here- but I will say since you took my "anything" to the extreme level as being farging stupid, clearly your not understanding my point. Im sure Garcia knows talent at the WR level when he sees it--he wasnt throwing the football to a bunch of mental midgets in San Fran like he could be if McNabb gets dropped again. His words on the WR corp should be respected by the WR's--thats all.

Wingspan

Quote from: SunnyCakes on June 02, 2006, 04:46:41 PM
the offense is gonna be what it is, what it was in 2003 and 2002, a unit that needs to play with little mistakes to sustain drives and score points, with the quarterback having to be a playmaker.

where this team goes from 6 or 7 wins to 10 or 11 is the defense.  is the new dline gonna get pressure on the qb?  if not, they are in trouble.

the 2002 eagles scored more points than any other eagles team...ever.

and the 2003 eagles only scored about 20 less points than the 2004 eagles.

2004 - 386 Points scored reg season, 24.1/game (Owens, Pinkston, Mitchell) - Total Team Tds 44
2003 - 374 pts, 23.3/game (Pinkston, Thrash, Mitchell) - Total team TDs 43
2002 - 415 pts, 25.9 /gm (Pinkston, Thrash, Freeman) - Total team TDs 46
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The BIGSTUD

That's one of the reasons it's funny when people suddenly think this offense will suck. We have the best all around receiving corps since Andy's been here. We don't have anyone close to TO's caliber, but overall from front to back we have more talent and depth than any year since Andy's been here.

Plus we have 3 very talented RBs. 2 of which in any other offense would be 1,000 yard guys IMO. If the Eagles have a nice balance, this offense will be more productive than 2004, 2003 and 2002.

Field position is a big key too. Can Bloom start and give us great returns? Will it be Mahe?
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ice grillin you

mcnabb has the inner strength of a twinkie...with what has happened the last year and a half...even healthy theres no guarantee hes going to come back to what he was...the schedule is a great help to them in that he has a chance to come out strong and get his confidence in check (the opener coming on the road is key)....but if he comes out of the gate slow they are going to implode...regardless of what the wr's or defense do or dont do

if mcnabb returns to form...and that includes running the ball...they have a decent shot to be IN the division race
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General_Failure

Quote from: ice grillin you on June 04, 2006, 04:12:19 PM
mcnabb has the inner strength of a twinkie...

Now here's a man who really enjoys writing out stupid things.

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rjs246

Quote from: Bunkley78 on June 04, 2006, 04:06:15 PM
That's one of the reasons it's funny when people suddenly think this offense will suck. We have the best all around receiving corps since Andy's been here. We don't have anyone close to TO's caliber, but overall from front to back we have more talent and depth than any year since Andy's been here.

Maybe talent-wise. But what does that say when 2 fourth rounders, a fifth rounder and two undrafted guys comprise the back end of the 'deepest' WR corps since Reid has been here? Nothing good, that's for sure.

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Plus we have 3 very talented RBs. 2 of which in any other offense would be 1,000 yard guys IMO.

Everyone's hard-on for Moats is ridiculous. I've said enough about Westbrook for everyone to understand how I feel about him, but Moats? A 1000-yard rusher on another team? Jesus. What in the farg would make anyone think that?

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If the Eagles have a nice balance, this offense will be more productive than 2004, 2003 and 2002.

In all three of those seasons the team had 6 games against TERRIBLE NFC East teams that allowed them to rack up meaningless points. Not to mention that the rest of the NFC wasn't exactly lighting the world on fire. There is no chance that this team approaches 400 points this season. None.

In other words, just stop.
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shorebird

I just wish the season would start so McNabb can once again prove his critics wrong.

He takes all the blame when the Eagles lose in the playoffs, and gets absolutely no credit for getting them there in the first place. When they lose in the playoffs or the Superbowl, it's the last game of the season and all the Negaphilians have all offseason to pick and intellectualize all the things he did wrong. Thing is all those doing the intellectualizing are ususally a lot less smart than they think themselves to be.

McNabb will come back, and this team will make the playoffs.

Catapult

Quote from: rjs246 on June 04, 2006, 04:21:14 PM
In all three of those seasons the team had 6 games against TERRIBLE NFC East teams that allowed them to rack up meaningless points. Not to mention that the rest of the NFC wasn't exactly lighting the world on fire. There is no chance that this team approaches 400 points this season. None.

In other words, just stop.

This was all said when the Eagles finished 11-5 and surprised everyone with a playoff win in McNabb's second year.  The NFC East, we were all assured, would be "better" next year and the Eagles would return to their Buddy Ryan/Rich Kotite/Ray Rhodes losing ways.

Then the Eagles go 11-5 next year, win 2 playoff games, and almost storm their way into the Super Bowl.  Once again, the NFC conference would catch on to what the Eagles were doing, and the Eagles would return to the cellar of the NFL.

Next year, the Eagles perform Instant Replay, finish 12-4, win the division, AND Homefield.  However, thanks to an idiot starting at safety who hid his injury from the team, no SB appearance.  And the prediction-meisters once again said the Eagles will fall and fall hard.

Another year passes.  The Eagles finish 12-4...again.  Win the division...again.  Get to the NFCCG...again.  Unfortunately, while McNabb and some of the defense played, no one else bothered to show up...again.  The Gloom Patrol jumps on the soapbox and proclaims the window for the Eagles has shut...again.

So what happens?  The Eagles finish 13-3, win the division AND Homefield once more.  AND get to the Superbowl...AND come within 4 points winning it all.  And the broken records once again screamed, "The Eagles won't win! The Eagles won't win!"

So this year, the Eagles go 6-10, but it took a season-ending Injury to a starting WR, serious injuries up and down both sides of the ball, inept play from quite a few of the backup players, AND a cancerous superstar playing "Look at me! Look at me!  The QB Sucks! I want money!' before the Eagles finished with a losing record for the first time in 6 years.

The "stronger Rest of the NFC East" is just an illusion, one perpetuated by hype, smoke and mirrors.  Or are Eli Manning, Drew Bledsoe, and whoever the next clown strarting for the Capital Beltway team going to suddenly turn into Roger Staubach, Joe Montana, and Johnny Unitas?  And the defenses have all become variations of the Doomsday Defense, the Steel Curtain, and Gang Green?

Because I certainly don't see it.

PS - Scoring 400 points in a season is a guarantee of nothing.  Just ask the 2003, 2004, and 2005 Colts.
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General_Failure

Quote from: Catapult on June 04, 2006, 07:16:35 PM
So this year, the Eagles go 6-10, but it took a season-ending Injury to a starting WR

Seriously now, that's your first reason?

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Rome

LOL.  Had to be a typo.


(Although the greatness of one Todd Pinkston can't be denied.)   :yay

Catapult

Quote from: General_Failure on June 04, 2006, 07:23:21 PM
Quote from: Catapult on June 04, 2006, 07:16:35 PM
So this year, the Eagles go 6-10, but it took a season-ending Injury to a starting WR

Seriously now, that's your first reason?

Pinkston will never make an All-Pro team.  His name will not strike fear in the hearts of DBs.  And he can be jammed at the line.

But somehow, he manages to stretch the field and McNabb will throw a bomb his way.  More often than not, when it is, he'll either catch it or draw a PI flag.

Even if he doesn't, the attempt forces defenses to shift more into coverage.  The "honest" defenses have a harder time defending the Eagles when Pinkston can do that.

This was the case when he started opposite Thrash (or Freeman).  It was the case when he started opposite TO.  And for all the crap that fans throw at him (which all started with 2 plays) not a single Eagles WR, including some "fan favorites" have been able to unseat him from the Number 2 slot.  We saw why for one of them in the Super Bowl.  We saw why with the rest of them last year.

The Eagles Reid-Run Offense needs a WR who can outrun coverage.  Last year, they didn't have anyone that could (and at least try to catch the ball when they did).  Pinkston's role as the Eagles #2 was never replaced, and the offense looked like a Ford Pinto, the moment before it was rear-ended by a Mack Truck.

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ice grillin you

the eagles were in a piss poor conference...that cant be denied

were they a good team of course
but to say they would have done the same thing in the afc or even last years nfc is to be lying to yourself

still i read somewhere that one team from each conference makes the superbowl...and even in the bad nfc the eagles could only even make one of those

again if mcnabb has a straight head on his shoulders and doesnt sulk and give up everytime hes in a tough situation this year when say people are booing him or telling him he misses TO...then the eagles should be right in the mix for the division
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ice grillin you

sorry

how about all up in the errea!
i can take a phrase thats rarely heard...flip it....now its a daily word

igy gettin it done like warrick

im the board pharmacist....always one step above yous

stalker

Quote from: ice grillin you on June 05, 2006, 08:35:06 AM
sorry

how about all up in the errea!

You know IGY all that BS you proclaim to be fact about McNabb is nonsense. The inner strength of a twinkie? The guy has played and played well with INJURY, not just pain. He has shown an amazing ability to suck it up. You\'re evidence is thst he didn\'t fist fight TO in the locker room? Sometimes, the best answer is just to ignore an idiot. That being said, however, I must tell you that I am in love with your avatar.
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