2006 Philles Season Thread

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

Now he takes the 3rd strike and starts to walk toward the dugout before the ump even rings him up.

[Rome]

The increase in K's looking has also had a major increase in his OBP.  I am willing to make that trade off. 

I'd like an increase in OBP because he is being smart at the plate and not swinging at crappy pitches. So youre willing to take a higher OBP at the cost of him suckin ass with RISP?

He also increased his OBP last year, and I am pretty sure he was one of our best hitters with RISP last year. 

RISP is largely a stat of chance.  Throughout his career Burrell has actually done well in that situation. 

Personally I am sick of the hypocrits.  Howard strikes out more than Burrell, is worse than Burrell with RISP, shows bad plate discipline, and cant hit with the bases loaded. 

Yes Howard has much more power than Burrell,but why dont we whine about those things?  Because he makes less than 500k like the rest of us blue collared guys?  Because women dont slober over him like they do Burrell?

I find it funny that the same people who relentlessly bash Burrell think Rowand is a good player. 

Howard has played exactly 1 full season now in Philly.  Unlike Burrell, he seems to have the ability to improve rather than to regress.

Plus he leads the National League in Home Runs & is tied for 4th in RBI's at this point.  What more do you want, dude?

[mpmcgraw]

Since 03 Burrell has improved every year. 

I want more of those homeruns to come with RISP, less strikeouts, better plate discipline, and better fielding. 

Same things everyone is asking from Burrell.  Howard isnt a rookie anymore, I dont think expecting improvement in a couple of those categories is unreasonable.   

[Rome]

Since 2003 Burrell has improved?

Dude, wtf are you smoking?

[mpmcgraw]

Look at the numbers.   

He was better in 04 than 03, much better in 05 than 04, and is on pace for a better year this year than 05.   

The past two years he has had similiar years to 02, so that is probably his ceiling.  I dont blame him for Wade's stupidity.

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

It would be nice if a guy nicknamed "the bat" could hit about .275 or so.

[Rome]

He had two outstanding years (2002 & 2005).  The rest have been mediocre to outright awful.

That's not exactly an upward curve.  In fact, he's been a yoyo.

[mpmcgraw]

He will probably finish the year around there.  I am OK with it if he continues to walk at a nice rate.

I think of him as a lesser version of Adam Dunn. 

[Rome]

Code Select Expand

2000      Philadelphia Phillies  111  408  57  106  27  1  18  79  189  63  139  0  0  .359  .463  .260
2001     Philadelphia Phillies 155 539 70 139 29 2 27 89 253 70 162 2 1 .346 .469 .258
2002     Philadelphia Phillies 157 586 96 165 39 2 37 116 319 89 153 1 0 .376 .544 .282
2003     Philadelphia Phillies 146 522 57 109 31 4 21 64 211 72 142 0 0 .309 .404 .209
2004     Philadelphia Phillies 127 448 66 115 17 0 24 84 204 78 130 2 0 .365 .455 .257
2005     Philadelphia Phillies 154 562 78 158 27 1 32 117 283 99 160 0 0 .389 .504 .281
2006     Philadelphia Phillies 91 305 50 79 13 0 22 68 158 60 87 0 0 .380 .518 .259
Career Totals    941 3370 474 871 183 10 181 617 1617 531 973 5 1 .360 .480 .258


Nothing like steady improvement...   

[mpmcgraw]

He had two outstanding years (2002 & 2005).  The rest have been mediocre to outright awful.

That's not exactly an upward curve.  In fact, he's been a yoyo.

You are right, but he is still on pace to have a better year this year than 05.  His shortcomings are just being magnified because the team is horrible overall this year. 

He took a huge step back in 03 no doubt.  But in 04 he took baby steps back towards 02 and in 05 he almost matched 02's production.  If his feet dont fall apart this year he will do it again.

[mpmcgraw]

I am not saying that he improved on 02 if that is what you took it as.

[ice grillin you]

Howard strikes out more than Burrell

because he actually swings the bat

is worse than Burrell with RISP

and he hits better than burrell with risp and two out...a truly clutch situation...and is better than burrell in late game situations...burrell is an absolute dog when you need a big hit...hes great at 3 run hr's in blowouts...but when you need a clutch hit strikes out looking...which is absolutely inexcusable in those situations

Yes Howard has much more power than Burrell

and howard hits almost 30 points higher scores more runs more extra base hits better sluggin % and on and on and on...so what is your point?

and the guy has played one full year in the majors....burrell has played almost seven and its the same old garbage


Since 03 Burrell has improved every year.

hes better now than he was in 03 sure....but hes not better now than he was last year...so what exactly are you saying...basically that hes better this year than in the worst year he ever had?...hooray!!

[mpmcgraw]

Actually he is not as good as 02, but better than last year.   

[mpmcgraw]

Are we talking about the same sport?

Last time I checked runs scored in the 2nd count as much as runs scored in the 8th.

I suppose you would want Big Papi over Pujols then eh?

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

I suppose you would want Big Papi over Pujols then eh?

Yes.  Is that a trick question?