2006 Philles Season Thread

[phillymic2000]

He didn't throw him a lame duck, he just threw strikes instead of walking him.

[rjs246]

Albert Pujols is batting 1.000 with a 4.000 slugging percentage against the Phillies this year. Those are good numbers.

[PhillyPhreak54]

Rollins said he wasn't fazed by the thought that Wainwright might be trying to pitch around him. Cardinals manager Tony La Russa, on the other hand, was becoming increasingly unhappy. After the count went 2-0, and again at 3-0, he motioned to the mound, telling Wainwright to throw the ball down the middle.

"The No. 1 thing is that you're supposed to play the game right," he explained. "You get a lead, you're not supposed to walk anybody. I didn't want [this] morning to read or hear somebody say the streak stopped because the Cardinals didn't pitch to him in his last at-bat. That isn't what the Cardinals represent."

Not really a LaRussa fan, but I liked this.

how is that different than favre laying down for strahan's record breaking sack?

Because throwing a strike doesn't guarantee a hit. You can still ground out, pop out or whatever. The hitter has to do some work. Favre laying down on the ground guaranteed the record because all Gappy had to do was lay on him and dry hump him a little bit.

[Wingspan]

a fast ball down the middle might as well be a lame duck

[SunMo]

it's not the same, move on.

[Wingspan]

Rollins said he wasn't fazed by the thought that Wainwright might be trying to pitch around him. Cardinals manager Tony La Russa, on the other hand, was becoming increasingly unhappy. After the count went 2-0, and again at 3-0, he motioned to the mound, telling Wainwright to throw the ball down the middle.

"The No. 1 thing is that you're supposed to play the game right," he explained. "You get a lead, you're not supposed to walk anybody. I didn't want [this] morning to read or hear somebody say the streak stopped because the Cardinals didn't pitch to him in his last at-bat. That isn't what the Cardinals represent."

Not really a LaRussa fan, but I liked this.

how is that different than favre laying down for strahan's record breaking sack?

Because throwing a strike doesn't guarantee a hit. You can still ground out, pop out or whatever. The hitter has to do some work. Favre laying down on the ground guaranteed the record because all Gappy had to do was lay on him and dry hump him a little bit.

i smell homerism.

people here rag about farve laying down all the time.

but a fastball down the middle of the plate is as close to that as you can get in baseball, unless the pitcher underhands it.

if one is tainted, so is the other. if rollins hits to 56 games, this could be seen as a second "*" (the first being 2 season...which i do think is harder than 1 season)

[SunMo]

gotta love Wingspan being the contrarian just for his own amusement

[PhillyPhreak54]

Whatever. Even without LaRussa saying that stuff it is common knowledge that on a 3-0 pitch you are going to get a fastball grooved down the pipe. The question is, are you going to swing 3-0 or are you going to take it and try to work a walk. When losing by 8 in the 8th inning you usually take the pitch because you need baserunners. But Charlie gave him the green light.

Keep on trying to say its Favre-Strahan II. It's not. Unless you think that just because a fastball is thrown on a line guarantees a hit. But that'd be stupid to think that.

[Geowhizzer]

Wingspan,

With a big lead, the last thing a manager wants to see is a pitcher walking a hitter.  He wasn't telling the pitcher to throw batting practice, but to give Rollins a chance to hit the ball.  Doesn't matter about a hitting streak, he'd rather see a hit than a walk.

Even the best hitters on average get on base less than one-third of the time, whereas a walk would have automatically put a runner on base.  With a 13-5 lead, LaRussa would rather take his chances on a hit than hand out walks, especially to a speed guy like Rollins.

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

Keep on trying to say its Favre-Strahan II. It's not.

You're right, because that was actually for the record, while Rollins is 20 games away and has zero shot in hell of actually breaking the record regardless.  Otherwise, it is kind of ghey a la Favruh/

[rjs246]

How great would it be to have the most mediocre player on the most mediocre team ever break dimaggio's record, only to go on and finish his .270-career-batting-average baseball career in obscurity? Roger Maris part 2.

Of course it will never happen, because he isn't good enough to hit for 57 straight games, but would be funny none the less.

[ice grillin you]

Of course it will never happen, because he isn't good enough to hit for 57 straight games

lol

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

Here's the thing:  Even if you assume that Rollins is a career .300 hitter and that he has an average of 5 AB's a game, there is still a 16.8% chance that he will get zero hits in any given game.

So, the chance of him even hitting safely in the 37 games in a row he already has were 0.1724% (a 1 in 580 shot).

The chance of him hitting safely in the next 20 games safely are actually about 3.208% (a 1 in 31 shot), so I suppose anything can happen.  But lets just say there's a better chance of either the Flyers winning the Cup or the Eagles winning the Super Bowl in 2006/2007... so don't hold your damn breath.

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

Just so you know... if his streak gets to 53 games (ergo, he has 4 games left to break the record), his odds of doing so would be almost exactly 50/50.  Which, in Philly terms, means that he is extremely likely to get to 53 games and choke on it after no more than 2 more games.

[hunt]

thome, rolen, & wags all had nice games...how'd the sils lose that one?