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NGM

If you're going to take a wide receiver in that round why not go with Orr from Wisconsin.  That guy has a hell of a lot more upside than Baskett does. 
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NGM

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I got really really drunk last night.  Orr is dreamy. 
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PoopyfaceMcGee

Quote from: NGM on April 16, 2006, 04:03:30 PM
If you're going to take a wide receiver in that round why not go with Orr from Wisconsin.  That guy has a hell of a lot more upside than Baskett does. 

Quote from: NGM on April 16, 2006, 04:04:16 PM
If you are going to take a WR in that round why not go with Orr from Wisconsin?  He has a hell of a lot more upside than Baskett. 

If ur gonna take a wideout in that round why not get Orr from Wisconsin?  He has hella more upside than Baskett.

Don Ho

Quote from: FFatPatt on April 16, 2006, 05:18:00 PM
Quote from: NGM on April 16, 2006, 04:03:30 PM
If you're going to take a wide receiver in that round why not go with Orr from Wisconsin.  That guy has a hell of a lot more upside than Baskett does. 

Quote from: NGM on April 16, 2006, 04:04:16 PM
If you are going to take a WR in that round why not go with Orr from Wisconsin?  He has a hell of a lot more upside than Baskett. 

If ur gonna take a wideout in that round why not get Orr from Wisconsin?  He has hella more upside than Baskett.

I'm a little surprised nobody has mentioned Orr from Wisconsin yet.
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MURP

Id rather they took Williams from Wisconsin. 

Feva

Quote from: Don Ho on April 16, 2006, 05:35:58 PM
Quote from: FFatPatt on April 16, 2006, 05:18:00 PM
Quote from: NGM on April 16, 2006, 04:03:30 PM
If you're going to take a wide receiver in that round why not go with Orr from Wisconsin.  That guy has a hell of a lot more upside than Baskett does. 

Quote from: NGM on April 16, 2006, 04:04:16 PM
If you are going to take a WR in that round why not go with Orr from Wisconsin?  He has a hell of a lot more upside than Baskett. 

If ur gonna take a wideout in that round why not get Orr from Wisconsin?  He has hella more upside than Baskett.

I'm a little surprised nobody has mentioned Orr from Wisconsin yet.

The thing about Baskett is that he doesn't have as much upside as a guy like Orr from Wisconsin.  We might as well take him if we're gonna take a WR in that round.
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Pat Kirwan's two round mock from NFL.com:

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(April 15, 2006) -- This is my first of three mock drafts that I will create for NFL.com leading up to the draft at the end of the month. I will assume that there will be no pre-draft trades that could change the decision making along the way. I will combine the activity in free agency, the needs of the teams, and the grades of the players as draft boards start to take shape.

1. Houston: Reggie Bush, RB, USC
Bush is a once-in-a-decade player and a matchup nightmare. He had 38 touchdowns in three years at USC.

2. New Orleans: D'Brickashaw Ferguson, OT, Virginia
He could move down but a 10-year starter is too hard to resist. The Saints traded Wayne Gandy, a starter at tackle last season, to Atlanta.

3. Tennessee: Matt Leinart, QB, USC
Leinart threw for more touchdown passes in college than Vince Young and Jay Cutler combined. He also knows the Titans' offense, having played under coordinator Norm Chow at USC.

4. N.Y. Jets: Mario Williams, DE, N.C. State
Williams can replace John Abraham, who was traded this offseason. He reminds new coach Eric Mangini of the Patriots' Richard Seymour and can play in either the 3-4 or 4-3.

5. Green Bay: Haloti Ngata, DT, Oregon
Having Ngata in the middle makes Green Bay defensive ends Aaron Kampman and Kabeer Gbaja-Biamila better. Ngata stops the run and has a rare combination of size and speed.

6. San Francisco: Vernon Davis, TE, Maryland
A young quarterback like Alex Smith always needs a tight end to be effective and Davis can provide major matchup problems.

7. Oakland: Vince Young, QB, Texas
Aaron Brooks signed a two-year deal with the Raiders, but owner Al Davis likes Young's upside. Randy Moss could make a perfect partner.

8. Buffalo: Brodrick Bunkley, DT, Florida State
The best under tackle for the new 'Dungy' defense, Bunkley has a talent that is hard to find.

9. Detroit: Michael Huff, DB, Texas
The safest pick in the draft, Huff can play either cornerback or safety. He is a leader and a Matt Millen-type player.

10. Arizona: Jay Cutler, QB, Vanderbilt
Kurt Warner is old and brittle and Cutler is Brett Favre-like. He's still two years away, though.

11. St. Louis: A.J. Hawk, OLB, Ohio State
Hawk should have been gone by now but will become a cornerstone for Jim Haslett's defense.

12. Cleveland: Kamerion Wimbley, DE, Florida State
Wimbley is the perfect fit for the 3-4 defense and reminds general manager Phil Savage of Peter Boulware, who Savage helped draft in Baltimore.

13. Baltimore: Winston Justice, OT, USC
The Ravens can use Justice at right tackle until Jonathan Ogden retires.

14. Philadelphia: Chad Jackson, WR, Florida
The Eagles failed to land Eric Moulds and released Terrell Owens, so they could use Jackson right away.

15. Denver: Santonio Holmes, WR, Ohio State
The Broncos can trade Ashley Lelie right after this pick.

16. Miami: Ernie Sims, OLB, Florida State
Sims is a tackling machine and replaces Junior Seau on the Dolphins defense.

17. Minnesota: Chad Greenway, OLB, Iowa
Greenway has a high character, the type of player that new coach Brad Childress wants on the team.

18. Dallas: Manny Lawson, LB, N.C. State
Lawson is the perfect complement to DeMarcus Ware.

19. San Diego: Jimmy Williams, DB, Virginia Tech
Williams can be a corner or safety and the Chargers need to replace Sammy Davis in the secondary.

20. Kansas City: Antonio Cromartie, CB, Florida State
Cromartie is a tremendous athlete and has had excellent workouts. The Chiefs really need to focus on defense in the draft.

21. New England: DeMeco Ryans, OLB, Alabama
The Patriots replace Willie McGinest with Ryans, a highly productive linebacker.

22. Denver: DeAngelo Williams, RB, Memphis
The Broncos got the wide receiver earlier in the draft and the running back completes their first round.

23. Tampa Bay: Mathias Kiwanuka, DE, Boston College
Kiwanuka can learn for a year behing Simeon Rice. He had 34 sacks in college.

24. Cincinnati: Nick Mangold, C, Ohio State
Bengals center Rich Braham is 36 years old and in the last year of his contract.

25. N.Y. Giants: Bobby Carpenter, OLB, Ohio State
The son of former Giants running back Rob Carpenter, he is a versatile linebacker than can fill two needs.

26. Chicago: Tye Hill, CB, Clemson
This pick could change if the Bears acquire a cornerback in free agency.

27. Carolina: Laurence Maroney, RB, Minnesota
With Stephen Davis gone, the Panthers need a back to complement DeShaun Foster.

28. Jacksonville: Tamba Hali, DE, Penn State
A slow time in the 40-yard dash drops Hali, but he could be used replace Paul Spicer.

29. N.Y. Jets: Eric Winston, OT, Miami
The Jets missed out on Ferguson earlier and left tackle is a top need.

30. Indianapolis: Thomas Howard, OLB, Texas-El Paso
USC running back LenDale White is there but the Colts also lost linebacker David Thornton.

31. Seattle: Davin Joseph, G, Oklahoma: Joseph is an immediate replacement for Steve Hutchinson.

32. Pittsburgh: Rodrique Wright, DT, Texas: White looks tempting, but Wright answers a bigger need.
Second Round

The second round looks as good as half of the first round and teams can really satisfy some of their pressing needs with players capable of making an early impact. Of course, some of the players selected in the first round could easily fall to the second round and a few of the following players could be taken in the first round.

33. Houston: Marcus McNeil, OT, Auburn
34. New Orleans: Johnathan Joseph, CB, South Carolina
35. N.Y. Jets: Andrew Whitworth, OT, Louisiana State
36. Green Bay: Roger McIntosh, OLB, Miami
37. San Francisco: Jason Allen, DB, Tennessee
38. Oakland: Claude Wroten, DT, Louisiana State
39. Tennessee: Abdul Hodge, ILB, Iowa
40. Detroit: Kelly Jennings, CB, Miami
41. Arizona: Darnell Bing, S, USC
42. Buffalo: Ashton Youboty, CB, Ohio State
43. Cleveland: Gabe Watson, DT, Michigan
44. Baltimore: Ko Simpson, S, South Carolina
45. Philadelphia: LenDale White, RB, USC
46. St. Louis: Marcedes Lewis, TE, UCLA
47. Atlanta: Deuce Lutui, G, USC
48. Minnesota: Anthony Fasano, TE, Notre Dame
49. Dallas: Pat Watkins, FS, Florida State
50. San Diego: Sinorice Moss, WR, Miami
51. Minnesota: Brodie Croyle, QB, Alabama
52. New England: Brian Calhoun, RB, Wisconsin
53. Washington: Ray Edwards, DE, Purdue
54. Kansas City: Donte Whitner, SS, Ohio State
55. Cincinnati: Leonard Pope, TE, Georgia
56. N.Y. Giants: Jon Scott, OT, Texas
57. Chicago: Joe Klopfenstein, TE, Colorado
58. Carolina: Max Jean-Gilles, G, Georgia
59. Tampa Bay: Daniel Bullocks, S, Nebraska
60. Jacksonville: Joseph Addai, RB, Louisiana State
61. Denver: Dominique Byrd, TE, USC
62. Indianapolis: Jerious Norwood, RB, Mississippi State
63. Seattle: Jon Alston, OLB, Stanford
64. Pittsburgh: Maurice Stoval, WR, Notre Dame

LenDale White falling to 45  ???
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PoopyfaceMcGee

I don't think LenDale falling to 45 is nearly as weird as the Eagles going WR/RB in rounds 1 & 2.

Also, A.J. Hawk falling to #11?  Jeez.  I'd hope the Eagles could move up and get him to start him at SAM.

Drunkmasterflex

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I think if Hawk falls past Detroit, Cleveland is trying to move up with a quickness to get him.
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Feva

I'll be pretty heated if the Eagles go their 1st 2 picks without addressing the defense.
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reese125

funny how Chad Jackson keeps falling to the Eagles on almost every mock. Nobody thinks the Ravens need help at the WR spot with a 9 year vet?

PhillyPhanInDC

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Quote from: reese125 on April 17, 2006, 01:04:48 PM
funny how Chad Jackson keeps falling to the Eagles on almost every mock. Nobody thinks the Ravens need help at the WR spot with a 9 year vet?

No.

Quote from: FFatPatt on April 17, 2006, 12:26:38 PM
I don't think LenDale falling to 45 is nearly as weird as the Eagles going WR/RB in rounds 1 & 2.

Also, A.J. Hawk falling to #11?  Jeez.  I'd hope the Eagles could move up and get him to start him at SAM.

I really think Hawk could be one of the guys that falls a bit, although the 11 spot may be a bit nuts. I don't think it would be because his stock is dropping (it isn't), but it's just one of those deals where the teams may go on what they consider more pressing needs at the time.
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phillymic2000

couldn't the steelers use a beefy RB since the bus is gone?

reese125

now theres some insight and wisdom with the Ravens WR answer....wheeew...thanks Phanin

NGM

Quote from: reese125 on April 17, 2006, 01:39:18 PM
now theres some insight and wisdom with the Ravens WR answer....wheeew...thanks Phanin

I doubt the Ravens would go WR that high after signing Mason to a big deal last year and drafting Clayton.  So I would agree with DC on this one. 
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