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[Seabiscuit36]

Marcus Vick 

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

I had a brainstorm this morning... I think the Eagles spot could be hotly-contested for teams looking to add one of the top WR's in the draft.  Most mocks have no WR's off the board until at least #14.  Now, unless the Eagles are absolutely in love with Chad Jackson or Santonio Holmes (which I doubt highly), they are looking at NO LESS THAN 3 of the next 5 picking teams really needing help at WR.  In fact, a case could be made for all 5:

#15:  Denver.  Rod Smith has maybe a year or two as a decent player left in him, but he's no longer a stud #1 as is.  Ashley Lelie is not panning out to be a reliable player, either.  Sure, they could be assured to add one of the top two guys at #15 if both are on the board at #14, but what if they really want Jackson?  What would they conceivably give up just to move up one spot?  And if the Eagles do slide down to #15, are the same teams still looking to move up ahead of the others to get Santonio Holmes?

#16:  Miami.  Some think the Fins are looking DB, possibly Tye Hill.  However, it is no secret they would like to add some punch opposite Chris Chambers and that they are working out Jackson and Holmes extensively.  They could certainly try to jump ahead of Denver, and their 3rd round pick is better, too.

#17:  Minnesota.  It's kind of a mystery what the Vikings really want to do.  Obviously, they'd have already traded up if they wanted to get one of the big 3 QB's.  However, if they're still sitting here, are they really thinking LB as many have guessed?  Or are they trying to fill the holes left by the departures of Randy Moss and Nate Burleson in back-to-back years?

#18:  Dallas.  Even since the addition of T.O., pundits believe that Dallas will have to add talent to their WR's of the future, with Glenn aging and T.O. likely not having a shelf life of more than a year or two before something goes wrong.  Do they suck it up and make a deal with a divisional rival?  They did last year to get Chris Canty, but in the later rounds.  Still, they are probably the least likely trade partner, because they'd have to overpay to get the Eagles to give them what they want.

#19:  San Diego.  McCardell had a solid season last year, but he's not getting younger.  They also lost Reche Caldwell to free agency.  Sure, they traded for Rashaun Woods, but does that mean anything?  I say no.  I say they want a WR, and they want one pretty bad.

Hell, even the Chiefs at #20 could want to make a move for a WR... but they'd have to give up something else besides their 3rd rounder to do so.  Maybe a pick next year also?

Anyway, I think the Eagles will be able to trade down fairly easily.

P.S.  Of the teams mentioned, here is where they're picking in the 3rd round:
Dallas - #16 (80 overall)
San Diego - #17 (81 overall)
Miami - #18 (82 overall)
Minnesota - #19 (83 overall)
Kansas City - #21 (85 overall)
Denver - #29 (93 overall)

[reese125]

You make great cases Patt, and thats one hell of a brainstorm. Amazing what coffee can do huh? but the only ones I see there are the biggest in San Diego and possibly Dallas---but they need more help in defense and I think they go Lawson.

I think Denver seriously considers Lendale White and makes him a star as they do in their system, and amongst all the critics bashing. No secret--they make a very serious run at Javon Walker

MIami, I think they are taking Ernie Sims because they are extremely high on him and the way he fits in their defensive system.

Minny, is still young at WR and already has Koren Robinson, Travis Taylor and Troy Williamson (who I think will have a great year)

[ice grillin you]

i cant see them providing dallas...a division rival...with another wr unless they get blown away with an offer than cant refuse

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

I think Denver could get LenDale at #22 if they really want him.

But obviously, it could be argued that any of those teams aren't looking WR... or that the Eagles wouldn't trade out of that spot because they really want a WR.  Will the damn draft just get here already?  Argh.

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

i cant see them providing dallas...a division rival...with another wr unless they get blown away with an offer than cant refuse

Well, Dallas does have the best pick in the 3rd round, and as the Eagles have worked out both Jackson and Holmes, it could be that they feel they are deeply screwing the Cowboys by allowing them to select one of those guys.

[ice grillin you]

they have no idea how good holmes or jackson is going to be...they may have the opinion that neither will pan out but theres always the chance that they will become a star....and thats the problem...its very hard to pull the trigger on a deal that  potentially is going to give a division rival a great wr for the next ten years

its one thing to trade them a center or a defensive tackle...but a guy that could be doing dances in the linc endzone next year makes a deal like that very nerve racking to pull off

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

No doubt.  But I still think they do it if other trade partners aren't coming forth, the top of their board of available guys is crowded with near-equal grades, and the Cowboys make the offer.  When it comes down to it, you have to look at what makes the most sense for your football team beyond what hurts the other team.

Some guys that could be available in the #80 range include Rodrique Wright, Kyle Williams, Jonathan Orr, Maurice Stovall, Devin Hester, Jonathan Scott, Ryan O'Callaghan, and yes, even Rocky McIntosh could fall into the 3rd.

If the Eagles could probably take the same player they'd take at #14 at #18 and pick up a guy like some of the one's I've named also... it would be a good deal, even if Chad Jackson ends up dancing in the end zone at the Linc.

[ice grillin you]

yeah im not saying it would never happen....but imo it would cost dallas significantly more to move up to their spot than it would a san diego

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

yeah im not saying it would never happen....but imo it would cost dallas significantly more to move up to their spot than it would a san diego

Probably, yes.  If Dallas is offering #18 and #80, and San Diego is offering #19 and #81, the Eagles probably go for option B.  Of course, then they're picking directly behind Dallas... but...

I don't fricking know.  11 days.

[bobbyinlondon]

There are the following rumors this morning--

1)According to the Denver Post, the Broncos are seriously thinking about swapping their Nos. 15 and 22 plus a player, thought to be Ashlie Lelie for the Packers' No.5 pick so they can choose Vernon Davis.

2)According to the DFW papers, the Cowboys are mulling a serious trade up to the No.8 spot for Michael Huff. I mean, what does Parcells care? He probably won't be there next year and he wants to win NOW.

3)The Panthers at 27 are hot after Lendale White. Both DeShaun Foster and Eric Shelton have serious health issues. Supposedly, also, the Panthers coaches ENCOURAGED WHITE NOT TO RUN at his Pro Day, saying there was enough game film on him to garner an opinion.

I've done a lot of mocks, looking at some possibilities for the Birds, and in almost every one, I have them trading down--mostly because to trade up, it would be prohibitive in cost. I did have them trading down with Denver to 22, in exchange for 22, 61, and 126. Now, if the Broncos-Packers trade goes through, I think the Panthers would like to trade up, giving the Eagles 27, 58, and 121.

The Eagles then could draft--

27. Carpenter
37. Wroten (with a trade of 45 and 108)
51. Jean Gilles (with a trade of 58 and 116) or perhaps the best OT left on the board
76. They could package this pick and a conditional 4th to GB for Javon Walker. It would become a 3rd if Walker lead the Eagles in catches, yards, or TDs.

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

bobby, while I think predicting multiple trades in advance starts to get a little silly, you make some OK points.

What I do want to know is what the Cowboys could possibly offer the Bills to get from #18 to #8?  I suppose they'd offer a 1st rounder next year and the 2nd rounder this year, or something of the ilk?

[Feva]

bobby, while I think predicting multiple trades in advance starts to get a little silly, you make some OK points.

What I do want to know is what the Cowboys could possibly offer the Bills to get from #18 to #8?  I suppose they'd offer a 1st rounder next year and the 2nd rounder this year, or something of the ilk?

That's about what I was thinking.  Seems like that's too big of a jump to make without the 2007 1st rounder.  Unless Parcells is planning on pulling a Ditka.

[phattymatty]

as far as Denver goes, I think they go offense with both of their first round picks, taking one RB (either DeAngelo Williams or Lendale White) and WR (either Holmes or Jackson) and I think they can stand pat where they're at and get one of each.

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

Oh, I agree that they could.  But if they are in love with Jackson over Holmes and find out that Miami is interested in making a move to the Eagles' pick, then they could try to outbid them in one way or another.