Franchise Tag prices (Runyan discussion)

[General_Failure]

Has Runyan shown any signs of deteriorating? Slowing up, missing games, getting wind burn as DEs blow by him?

[Rome]

The answer would be "no."

[General_Failure]

So why aren't the Eagles offering him a contract for infinity billion years?

[ice grillin you]

if it hasnt happened already...it will take less than five minutes for the eagles to find out if runyan is staying or not

ask him how much of this is money compared to staying in philly...its either all about him getting caked off...in which case bye bye...or its about him loving where he and his family are and wanting to stay in the area post retirement and taking less money to do so


but you dont franchise a 33 year old tackle that has mad miles on his odometer...i dont beleive in the franchise tag at all for the most part but if you use it you use on walter jones not john runyan

if anything franchising  runyan will piss him off more so than a younger player as this is his last chance to get dollars

its not like the birds would use the tag to bide time while they try to lock him up long term...dook aint getting inked long term no matter what

[Rome]

IGY... I don't think anyone is suggesting that the Eagles should franchise Big Jon without getting his permission first.  That would be disasterous.

But knowing the Eagles history, it's pretty certain that a long-term deal isn't going to be forthcoming.

If some other team offers him a signing bonus that is in the same range as the franchise amount would be, where is the harm in him accepting it?

Maybe I'm not seeing this correctly.  I don't know.

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

You're not going to get a player's *permission* to give the franchise tag unless said player is 100% ok with playing under the terms of the 1-year contract.  For instance, Charles Woodson made over $10m last year on a franchise tag.

Either way a signing bonus in the same range is preferable to the player, because it's all the cash up-front.

I just don't understand how an informed fan could think that a player like Runyan would be just fine with getting tagged.  It doesn't work that way.  If you have to tag the player, it means you really want to keep him despite not being able to reach a deal, OR you think someone will trade you for his rights.  Neither makes the player happy.

[phillywin2k5]

Eagles should rework McNabbs contract to clear some more space to keep Runyan and still sign some UFAs. After all McNabb makes enough with those GOD AWEFUL CRUNKY SOUP COMMERCIALS with his mama.

[thrillhouse]

Eagles should rework McNabbs contract to clear some more space to keep Runyan and still sign some UFAs. After all McNabb makes enough with those GOD AWEFUL CRUNKY SOUP COMMERCIALS with his mama.

Maybe his mom can play offensive line.  Sign Mrs. McNabb!

[MadMarchHare]

McNabb's contract is actually pretty cap friendly, compared to say Vick's or Peyton's.

[Sgt PSN]

Eagles should rework McNabbs contract to clear some more space to keep Runyan and still sign some UFAs. After all McNabb makes enough with those GOD AWEFUL CRUNKY SOUP COMMERCIALS with his mama.

McNabb giving up salary to pay Runyan instead of TO is black on black crime man. 

[Rome]

You're not going to get a player's *permission* to give the franchise tag unless said player is 100% ok with playing under the terms of the 1-year contract.  For instance, Charles Woodson made over $10m last year on a franchise tag.

Either way a signing bonus in the same range is preferable to the player, because it's all the cash up-front.

I just don't understand how an informed fan could think that a player like Runyan would be just fine with getting tagged.  It doesn't work that way.  If you have to tag the player, it means you really want to keep him despite not being able to reach a deal, OR you think someone will trade you for his rights.  Neither makes the player happy.

You have two choices:

Sign a multi-year deal with bonuses that amount to seven million dollars or sign a one-year deal that is worth a guaranteed seven million dollars.

What is the holy difference?  The bottom line is, both teams could release you after the first year without batting an eye.

Also - is Runyan really interested in playing more than another year or two at most?  I think he wants a ring and I think he wants to win it in Philly.  That's why I don't think he'd object to being tagged.

If a guy thinks he has five good years left, he's going to poop his pants at the tag.  Runyan isn't in that category, so why would he care?

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

You're wrong.  And you'll see that you're wrong if Runyan is tagged.


Thankfully, I'm fairly certain the Eagles FO, though maligned of late at times, will not make that mistake.

[Rome]

Yeah, okay.

I'm wrong, you're right.

I was just trying to understand your point of view on this, dude.

Jesus...   

[NGM]

Eagles should rework McNabbs contract to clear some more space to keep Runyan and still sign some UFAs. After all McNabb makes enough with those GOD AWEFUL CRUNKY SOUP COMMERCIALS with his mama.

McNabb giving up salary to pay Runyan instead of TO is black on black crime man. 

Ahahaha that was freaking great, I needed that after today.   

On topic though, what is this stuff about long-term contracts?  Hasn't more or less intimated that either this past year or this upcoming year was going to be his last?  That being said why wouldn't the Birds just give him base salary (a la Trotter) and give him a large signing bonus?

[bobbyinlondon]

I agree with Big Ed--they could put the Transition Tag on him instead. That lets other teams sign him to offer sheets and either the Eagles have to match it or get off the pot.  Then, he at least would have the best of both worlds per se--he would know that the Eagles would have interest in him enough to give him a transition tag, but not restricitve where he can't talk to other teams.