McNabb on NFL Network, NFL Live, SportsCenter, etc.

Started by BigEd76, January 31, 2006, 05:45:19 PM

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Sgt PSN

QuoteMcNabb's selection of two white receivers was not by accident. He took Owens' choice of Favre as disrespectful to McNabb as an African-American quarterback

I'm guessing this is the part that you think is embarassing.  I don't think that's accurately reported though.  I think McNabb would be offended by TO saying that Favre would have the Eagles playing better than McNabb because Favre is not a great QB anymore.  Not because Favre is white. 

You could insert any black QB of less talent than McNabb and I think you'd still get the same reaction.  Insert Kordella, Brooks, McNair, etc and McNabb would probably take it the same way. 

I like Michael Smith but I think he may be doing a little too much speculating and not enough fact finding on that one. 

NGM

Quote from: Diomedes on February 01, 2006, 10:51:26 PM
Donovan's not alone in the spurious-use-of-the-race-card category here.  That idiot from the NAACP and Rush Limbaugh find themselves in unusually strange company with him, I'm sure.  Tea, gentlemen?



I found it more humorous that the guy from the NAACP was being "more" racist than Limbaugh, if you can quantify this sort of thing.  Maybe if DMac would have called the draft booing racially motivated, we wouldn't have to put up with Angelo and Co. anymore. 
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General_Failure

If we had Joe Jurevicius, though, we might have won another game or two. Or he'd have been injured and made no difference whatsoever.

The man. The myth. The legend.

Diomedes

Quote from: Sgt PSN on February 01, 2006, 10:53:28 PMI like Michael Smith but I think he may be doing a little too much speculating and not enough fact finding on that one.

As I said:
Quote from: Diomedes on February 01, 2006, 10:41:51 PM(if it's accurately reported)

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Sgt PSN

Quote from: General_Failure on February 01, 2006, 10:55:21 PM
If we had Joe Jurevicius, though, we might have won another game or two. Or he'd have been injured and made no difference whatsoever.

If we had Jurevicius there would have been drunk idiots in the stands talking about his dead kid some more. 

Sgt PSN

Quote from: Diomedes on February 01, 2006, 10:56:48 PM
Quote from: Sgt PSN on February 01, 2006, 10:53:28 PMI like Michael Smith but I think he may be doing a little too much speculating and not enough fact finding on that one.

As I said:
Quote from: Diomedes on February 01, 2006, 10:41:51 PM(if it's accurately reported)



I know what you said.  I was just throwing in my $.02 by saying that I don't think it's accurate.  I just read that part of the article again and it seems to me like he's "tying" the Favre comments in with the comments from the NAACP jackass. 

General_Failure

Quote from: Sgt PSN on February 01, 2006, 10:57:24 PM
Quote from: General_Failure on February 01, 2006, 10:55:21 PM
If we had Joe Jurevicius, though, we might have won another game or two. Or he'd have been injured and made no difference whatsoever.

If we had Jurevicius there would have been drunk idiots in the stands talking about his dead kid some more. 

Probably. And they probably would have gotten their asses kicked, since it's not cool to rag on white Eagles that don't play QB.

The man. The myth. The legend.

LBIggle

i just caught it on espn.  him pulling the race card was pretty lame.  TO's black so, what.  he said, a white qb is better then you.. so, what.   last time i checked at least St. Favre has a ring.  stfu and prove him wrong dumb ass.

i thought your Mr. Joe cool, why would it bother you.  seems he doesn't know what to take seriously, and what not to.

pinoyboy2pt0

I watched that particular piece and think Michael Smith is reaching.  It could have started connecting previous reports with TO calling Ozzie racist...then it went to (in the MS report) TO calling Don a 'company man' and something like black quarterbacks should not sell themselves out and not run.  But Don was injured (him not tucking and running regardless of injury I guess could still be debated...).  Then it got sidetracked that Favre is a white qb and plays like one, then MS throws in rush, NAACP, throw in McNabb threw out two whitey's and it looks like a white v black thing instead of Favre the player vs 5 the player.

Ah farg it.  farging off-season.  They should all just chill out and call Mike Jones.  281-330-8004.
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bobbyinlondon

Quote from: L-ong-B-each-I-ggle on February 01, 2006, 11:00:57 PM
i just caught it on espn.  him pulling the race card was pretty lame.  TO's black so, what.  he said, a white qb is better then you.. so, what.   last time i checked at least St. Favre has a ring.  stfu and prove him wrong dumb ass.

i thought your Mr. Joe cool, why would it bother you.  seems he doesn't know what to take seriously, and what not to.


If you go back to the Owens interview, where he trumpted Favre as being the Eagles' saviour, he said, "Farve BRINGS A KNOWLEDGE TO THE QB POSITION..." Now to me, that's what McNabb was offended about and probably should have gone a little bit in detail about that. To me, that's questioning McNabb's intelligence, even though his regular season winning situation is sterling and he continues to be 2nd in NFL history for TD/INT ratio. To me, that remark also brought back memories of what former Dodger GM Al Campanis said about 20 years ago in an interview on why there were no black managers in the game: "Because they lack the basic necessities to be successful."

henchmanUK

It's a damn shame McNabb brought up the race issue. Maybe all the stuff Rush, NAACP dude, T.O. said just all got to him in that moment. Even so, I lost a little bit of respect for D-Mac today.
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Feva

When I saw the interview the first thing I thought was, "Oooh... it's gonna be a good ol' time on CF tonight!"


I think the only reason that his comments on the whole Favre thing is because I don't think he made himself clear enough.  IMO, McNabb's problem with the Favre thing has to do with TO saying that ANY QB is better for the Eagles than he is.  That includes Brady, Manning, Vick , Culpepper... whoever.  When he made the "black on black crime" comment, I think he was referring to the "company man" comment from TO and the "Sellout" comments from the NCAAP dickhead.

I think if McNabb had made it more clear that the Favre thing had more to do with Favre's on the field play and the disrespect that TO displayed by throwing him under the bus for ANY OTHER QB, this whole thing wouldn't be being blown up like this.
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Feva

Quote from: henchmanUK on February 02, 2006, 05:38:55 AM
It's a damn shame McNabb brought up the race issue. Maybe all the stuff Rush, NAACP dude, T.O. said just all got to him in that moment. Even so, I lost a little bit of respect for D-Mac today.

Why?

I don't see how he could have avoided talking about Race.  When talking about Rush, the NCAAP guy and TO's comments toward him, which were all racially motivated, how else could he respond?  These people brought race into the equation when they decided to criticize McNabb, using terms like sellout, company man, etc.  Smith was asking him about all these incidents.  Not just the Favre thing.  To accurately address the issue... McNabb has to talk about race.
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henchmanUK

Quote from: EagleFeva on February 02, 2006, 05:55:37 AM
Quote from: henchmanUK on February 02, 2006, 05:38:55 AM
It's a damn shame McNabb brought up the race issue. Maybe all the stuff Rush, NAACP dude, T.O. said just all got to him in that moment. Even so, I lost a little bit of respect for D-Mac today.

Why?

I don't see how he could have avoided talking about Race.  When talking about Rush, the NCAAP guy and TO's comments toward him, which were all racially motivated, how else could he respond?  These people brought race into the equation when they decided to criticize McNabb, using terms like sellout, company man, etc.  Smith was asking him about all these incidents.  Not just the Favre thing.  To accurately address the issue... McNabb has to talk about race.

Yeah, that's fair enough. I didn't see the interview but, of course, if he was asked about it then he has to talk about it. But the Favre comment, the way I took TO's initial remarks was that it was just Favre, nothing to do with the fact that he was white. This comment is what annoyed me.
Quote"It's different to say, 'If we had Michael Vick or Daunte Culpepper or Steve McNair or Byron Leftwich," McNabb said of four black starting quarterbacks. "But to go straight to Brett Favre, that kind of just slapped me in the face like, 'Wow ..."'
So it would have been okay to say Vick, Culpepper, McNair or Leftwich are better than you?
"The drunkenness, the violence, the nihilism: the Eagles should really be an English football team, not an American one." - Financial Times, London

Feva

Quote from: henchmanUK on February 02, 2006, 06:13:36 AM
Quote from: EagleFeva on February 02, 2006, 05:55:37 AM
Quote from: henchmanUK on February 02, 2006, 05:38:55 AM
It's a damn shame McNabb brought up the race issue. Maybe all the stuff Rush, NAACP dude, T.O. said just all got to him in that moment. Even so, I lost a little bit of respect for D-Mac today.

Why?

I don't see how he could have avoided talking about Race.  When talking about Rush, the NCAAP guy and TO's comments toward him, which were all racially motivated, how else could he respond?  These people brought race into the equation when they decided to criticize McNabb, using terms like sellout, company man, etc.  Smith was asking him about all these incidents.  Not just the Favre thing.  To accurately address the issue... McNabb has to talk about race.

Yeah, that's fair enough. I didn't see the interview but, of course, if he was asked about it then he has to talk about it. But the Favre comment, the way I took TO's initial remarks was that it was just Favre, nothing to do with the fact that he was white. This comment is what annoyed me.
Quote"It's different to say, 'If we had Michael Vick or Daunte Culpepper or Steve McNair or Byron Leftwich," McNabb said of four black starting quarterbacks. "But to go straight to Brett Favre, that kind of just slapped me in the face like, 'Wow ..."'
So it would have been okay to say Vick, Culpepper, McNair or Leftwich are better than you?

Again... it has to do with TO's previous comments about calling him a company man and all that.  A guy calls you something like that... it kind of echoes in whatever they say.  McNabb says it could have been different with Vick, Leftwich, etc. because then it's clear you're only talking about his abilities as a quarterback.  It's not a stretch to think that TO's Favre comments had a racial undertone to them as well... considering the racial comments that he'd already made against McNabb.
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