Obama Continues Bush's Illegal Drone Surveillance

[Butchers Bill]

I am talking about the leader of a major nation...an Islamic theocracy...what do you have?

You're claiming that an entire religion is hateful, pointing to the speech of one man as proof, and asking me to join your piss poor logic by doing the same.  If you want to claim Islam is hate, then you must admit that so too is Christianity.  Both harbor throngs of hateful adherents, both lionize leaders who promulgate hateful rhetoric, both have long-standing histories of murder, rape, and torture.  If the one is hate, so is the other.

You're confusing me with someone else, I never said all of Islam is hateful, but there is a significant portion of it that is and that portion is growing.  And that "one man" was elected by that nation...several million people also believe what he is saying.

[T_Section224]

Jesus, T, this is hardly causal evidence. Who were these "investigators"? How many of them were there, and what percent believe this?

i was just pointing out that the concept was not just in my head 

[stillupfront]

If the Patriot Act is thwarting terrorism it may be a neccessary evil in the war on terrorism

"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."    Benjamin Franklin, 1759.

BTW, the goal of terrorism is not to kill people - it is to make people afraid.  American citizens are not only afraid, but we have a web site to tell us just how afraid we should be today.  The war on terrorism was lost a long time ago...

  As to Franklin's character:

Now for stillupfront's character (emphasis his):

And my personal favorite

Why is anal sex more satisfying than vaginal sex?

It's warm. It's tight. And it's much more demeaning to women!

Thanks for the link! I just got a good laugh.

[methdeez]

I am talking about the leader of a major nation...an Islamic theocracy...what do you have?

You're claiming that an entire religion is hateful, pointing to the speech of one man as proof, and asking me to join your piss poor logic by doing the same.  If you want to claim Islam is hate, then you must admit that so too is Christianity.  Both harbor throngs of hateful adherents, both lionize leaders who promulgate hateful rhetoric, both have long-standing histories of murder, rape, and torture.  If the one is hate, so is the other.

No question that christians have done some very "hateful" things ...but most of it happened long ago and is reviled by christians in modern times (last 100-150 years)

Really?
Direct and indirect support of slavery, segragation, the holocaust, abortion doctor assasinations, every single war that any western nation starts, etc. The list goes on and on.
If you look at history, Islam has been waaaaay more tolerant of non-believers than Christians.

[fansince61]

Yeah, those ass-raped choirboys were centuries ago.  No, wait.....

Families and members are leaving the Catholic Church in droves because of the Vatican's disgraceful stance on this issue

[Rome]

I am talking about the leader of a major nation...an Islamic theocracy...what do you have?

You're claiming that an entire religion is hateful, pointing to the speech of one man as proof, and asking me to join your piss poor logic by doing the same.  If you want to claim Islam is hate, then you must admit that so too is Christianity.  Both harbor throngs of hateful adherents, both lionize leaders who promulgate hateful rhetoric, both have long-standing histories of murder, rape, and torture.  If the one is hate, so is the other.

You're confusing me with someone else, I never said all of Islam is hateful, but there is a significant portion of it that is and that portion is growing.  And that "one man" was elected by that nation...several million people also believe what he is saying.

If you think Khatami ascended to power via some sort of popular, democratic vote, you're clearly delusional.

[hbionic]

Time for a mom joke.

[Butchers Bill]

If you think Khatami ascended to power via some sort of popular, democratic vote, you're clearly delusional.

Wow...where do you people get your news?  Jon Stewart?    

Mahmoud Ahmadinejad is the current President of Iran.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/4107270.stm

Yet you claim I am delusional.   

[stillupfront]

You're claiming that an entire religion is hateful

i actually thing the religion is one of the most peaceful religions out there, however as with everything the extremists give everyone a bad name.  i still give my friend a hard time about him being a seventh day adventist and being linked to the david koresh.

Youi are believing alot of drivel put out by the liberal media. The muslims are taught from the cradle to hate non-believers! They are a religion that believes that if you are killed in a holy war, you will go to paradise and receive 72 virgins (obviously T-hawks mom won't be there). These miscreants are excited to die for their cause. Not because they believe in the cause but because they wanna fock virgins! Think about that. The problem is that the definition of an Arab virgin is a 9 year old girl who can out run their brothers and father. Really the answer to most of this terrorism is: soap. If these smelly disgusting pigs took a nice shower, shaved and dressed well, they might get laid! That is all they want.

[T_Section224]

Youi are believing alot of drivel put out by the liberal media. The muslims are taught from the cradle to hate non-believers!

and you learned this after years of living in the desert with them?

[Rome]

If you think Khatami ascended to power via some sort of popular, democratic vote, you're clearly delusional.

Wow...where do you people get your news?  Jon Stewart?    

Mahmoud Ahmadinejad is the current President of Iran.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/4107270.stm

Yet you claim I am delusional.   

My bad.  I forgot his name.  Khatami was the reformer who was tossed out on his ass by the clerics.  Ahmadinejad is the former "student" who was involved in the kidnapping of American hostages.

[MadMarchHare]

CRACKHEAD

[fansince61]

Youi are believing alot of drivel put out by the liberal media. The muslims are taught from the cradle to hate non-believers!

and you learned this after years of living in the desert with them?

Maybe after watching them celebrate in the streets after 9/11

[T_Section224]

that was part of the drivel put out by the liberal media, duh.

[stillupfront]

Youi are believing alot of drivel put out by the liberal media. The muslims are taught from the cradle to hate non-believers!

and you learned this after years of living in the desert with them?

Maybe after watching them celebrate in the streets after 9/11

Thanks 61.

You know what sucks?

We guys from the sixties have become the establishment. I wish I still shared the idealism of these college guys on here, but I have become quite cynical of all that crap.