Obama Continues Bush's Illegal Drone Surveillance

Started by Rome, December 16, 2005, 08:52:30 AM

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Rome

Quote from: Butchers Bill on December 16, 2005, 03:12:26 PM
Quote from: Diomedes on December 16, 2005, 02:44:36 PM
Bullshtein.

Witty response.

I have not seen any christian leader recently claim the holucaust was a hoax or that Isreal should be wiped off the map.  I HAVE seen a major Islamic leader do it though.

You're right.  The Catholic Church tacitly approved of the holocaust while it was happening.  They didn't bother to wait 60 years.

BTW: I'm a Catholic and even I say it's one of the most shameful periods in our history, and considering our history, that's saying something.

fansince61

#61
Quote from: Cerevant on December 16, 2005, 03:47:32 PM
Quote from: fansince61 on December 16, 2005, 03:42:41 PM
Quote from: Cerevant on December 16, 2005, 03:38:32 PM
Prior to 9/11, what was the most devastating act of terrorism within US borders?

We should have spied on the FBI and ATF and maybe WACO coulod have averted :yay
Hmm...guess I'll have to give the answers for our less educated friends...

Prior to 9/11, what was the most devastating act of terrorism within US borders?
Oklahoma City, 1995.

What was the nationality of the perpetrator?
Timothy McVeigh, American

What color was his skin?
As white as IGY

What kind of church did he go to?
Roman Catholic

Bonus:
Who should we have spied on to prevent this disaster?
your sorry ass, because you are a white christian hick who might want to kill someone

Without Waco there wouldn't have been an Oklahoma City bombing..You have study all of history not just pick and chose ::)

MadMarchHare

Chill, Dio, we'll need the gun nuts in the revolution....
Anyone but Reid.

Rome


Diomedes

Quote from: Butchers Bill on December 16, 2005, 03:31:44 PMI am talking about the leader of a major nation...an Islamic theocracy...what do you have?

You're claiming that an entire religion is hateful, pointing to the speech of one man as proof, and asking me to join your piss poor logic by doing the same.  If you want to claim Islam is hate, then you must admit that so too is Christianity.  Both harbor throngs of hateful adherents, both lionize leaders who promulgate hateful rhetoric, both have long-standing histories of murder, rape, and torture.  If the one is hate, so is the other.

There is considerable overlap between the intelligence of the smartest bears and the dumbest tourists." - Yosemite Park Ranger

MadMarchHare

Anyone but Reid.

Diomedes

Quote from: MadMarchHare on December 16, 2005, 03:50:36 PM
Chill, Dio, we'll need the gun nuts in the revolution....

I think liberals should orchestrate a nation wide assualt rifle purchase day.  Put out a press release saying "we have guns, too.  and we're buying more.  On July 4th.  Hundreds of thousands of assault rifles will be purchased by book readers, Romes, socialists, and anti-war zealots."
There is considerable overlap between the intelligence of the smartest bears and the dumbest tourists." - Yosemite Park Ranger

T_Section224

Quote from: Diomedes on December 16, 2005, 03:46:42 PMAnd dude, McVeigh had nothing to do with Osama. Are you farging kidding me?

crazy to think he would want something bad to happen in the US  :paranoid

Just one quick reference to the ties
http://www.answers.com/topic/timothy-mcveigh

QuoteSome investigators contend that Timothy McVeigh and his accomplice Terry Nichols had ties to Islamic terrorism through Ramzi Youssef, the Al Qaeda operative who planned the 1993 WTC bombing, and through a series of meetings with Islamic terror group Abu-Sayef members in the Philippines.

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Rome

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Quote from: MadMarchHare on December 16, 2005, 03:53:03 PM
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on December 16, 2005, 03:51:47 PM
Quote from: MadMarchHare on December 16, 2005, 03:50:36 PM
Chill, Dio, we'll need the gun nuts in the revolution....

I'm a gun nut...

:-*

You're hired!  Got any grenades?

Grenades?  They're for the gays.  I got seven, no... SIX anti-personnel mines in my front yard.

One went off the other day and I laughed!  Finally, that little corksucking poodle from next door tried to poop on my lawn and he got smoked!

Good times.

fansince61

#69
Quote from: Diomedes on December 16, 2005, 03:52:36 PM
Quote from: Butchers Bill on December 16, 2005, 03:31:44 PMI am talking about the leader of a major nation...an Islamic theocracy...what do you have?

You're claiming that an entire religion is hateful, pointing to the speech of one man as proof, and asking me to join your piss poor logic by doing the same.  If you want to claim Islam is hate, then you must admit that so too is Christianity.  Both harbor throngs of hateful adherents, both lionize leaders who promulgate hateful rhetoric, both have long-standing histories of murder, rape, and torture.  If the one is hate, so is the other.

No question that christians have done some very "hateful" things :P...but most of it happened long ago and is reviled by christians in modern times (last 100-150 years) :-[

MadMarchHare

Jesus, T, this is hardly causal evidence.  Who were these "investigators"?  How many of them were there, and what percent believe this?

It wouldn't surprise me if McVeigh did blow up the Murrow building to protest the Waco incident, as many believe.  But what isn't much in question is that he was a right-wing militant who wanted to lash back at the gov't.  And most of those people consider themselves "patriots" and that the gov't has forgotten what was mandated by the founding fathers.  These people probably hate Al Qaeda even more than you or I do, and I find it very hard to believe they'd work in unison, even with a common "enemy".
Anyone but Reid.

T_Section224

Quote from: Diomedes on December 16, 2005, 03:52:36 PMYou're claiming that an entire religion is hateful
i actually thing the religion is one of the most peaceful religions out there, however as with everything the extremists give everyone a bad name.  i still give my friend a hard time about him being a seventh day adventist and being linked to the david koresh.
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Butchers Bill

Quote from: Cerevant on December 16, 2005, 03:47:32 PM
Quote from: fansince61 on December 16, 2005, 03:42:41 PM
Quote from: Cerevant on December 16, 2005, 03:38:32 PM
Prior to 9/11, what was the most devastating act of terrorism within US borders?

We should have spied on the FBI and ATF and maybe WACO coulod have averted :yay
Hmm...guess I'll have to give the answers for our less educated friends...

Prior to 9/11, what was the most devastating act of terrorism within US borders?
Oklahoma City, 1995.

What was the nationality of the perpetrator?
Timothy McVeigh, American

What color was his skin?
As white as IGY

What kind of church did he go to?
Roman Catholic

Bonus:
Who should we have spied on to prevent this disaster?
your sorry ass, because you are a white christian hick who might want to kill someone

Why are you comparing the act of a lone nut or two (Nichols is still in jail) to a sect of a religeon that wants every non-believer murdered?
I believe I've passed the age of consciousness and righteous rage
I found that just surviving was a noble fight.
I once believed in causes too,
I had my pointless point of view,
And life went on no matter who was wrong or right.

MadMarchHare

Quote from: fansince61 on December 16, 2005, 04:00:58 PM
Quote from: Diomedes on December 16, 2005, 03:52:36 PM
Quote from: Butchers Bill on December 16, 2005, 03:31:44 PMI am talking about the leader of a major nation...an Islamic theocracy...what do you have?

You're claiming that an entire religion is hateful, pointing to the speech of one man as proof, and asking me to join your piss poor logic by doing the same.  If you want to claim Islam is hate, then you must admit that so too is Christianity.  Both harbor throngs of hateful adherents, both lionize leaders who promulgate hateful rhetoric, both have long-standing histories of murder, rape, and torture.  If the one is hate, so is the other.

No question that christians have done some very "hateful" things :P...but most of it happened long ago and is reviled by christians in modern times (last 100-150 years) :-[


Yeah, those ass-raped choirboys were centuries ago.  No, wait.....
Anyone but Reid.

MadMarchHare

Quote from: Butchers Bill on December 16, 2005, 04:03:45 PM
Quote from: Cerevant on December 16, 2005, 03:47:32 PM
Quote from: fansince61 on December 16, 2005, 03:42:41 PM
Quote from: Cerevant on December 16, 2005, 03:38:32 PM
Prior to 9/11, what was the most devastating act of terrorism within US borders?

We should have spied on the FBI and ATF and maybe WACO coulod have averted :yay
Hmm...guess I'll have to give the answers for our less educated friends...

Prior to 9/11, what was the most devastating act of terrorism within US borders?
Oklahoma City, 1995.

What was the nationality of the perpetrator?
Timothy McVeigh, American

What color was his skin?
As white as IGY

What kind of church did he go to?
Roman Catholic

Bonus:
Who should we have spied on to prevent this disaster?
your sorry ass, because you are a white christian hick who might want to kill someone

Why are you comparing the act of a lone nut or two (Nichols is still in jail) to a sect of a religeon that wants every non-believer murdered?

I think this makes our point.
Anyone but Reid.