Grievance Hearing Thread

[PhillyPhreak54]

I was just quoting FF's post and adding the poll results. I hadn't seen your post because I was still on the other page from reading the arbitration text. I just voted in the poll and then posted the results.

[BigEd76]

It's an interesting read just for the Reid letters....

[rjs246]

Andy, via letter to TO, about TO lying about the medical waiver:

Lying about signing a non-existent waiver is certainly not constructive in terms of our relationship, and does not further anyone's goals.  Especially since the reality is that we bent over backwards to make you aware that we were more than willing to share the risk with you.

What a farging psycho. I mean, are you kidding me with this shtein? I hope every owner and GM is forced to read every word of this. Whackjob.

[EJ72]

NFLPA wants to have Bloch dismissed 

(Updated story from before)

WAHHHHH WAHHHHH.

STFU.

Maybe Bloch will file a wrongful termination suit against the NFLPA. That would be a nice touch.

[SD_Eagle5]

Andy's first letter to moron:

Dear Terrell:



In light of the numerous recent conversations you and I have had, I thought it was important to communicate with you in writing.  I have been intending to do this for quite some time, and after the angry and threatening statements you made in our telephone conversation last night, it became clearer that this correspondence was necessary.



In our recent conversations, you have repeatedly threatened to do things and act in a manner that would be destructive to both the Philadelphia Eagles and to your own career.  These are things that are not only inappropriate, but are in conflict with both the promises you have made to me and the obligations under the contract you have signed with the Eagles.  You have repeatedly threatened to disrupt our team and to do whatever it takes to force us to cut or trade you, including breaching many provisions of your contract.,  Last night you specifically told me that you had no intention of coming into training camp and trying your best while you feel you are being underpaid.  Although this was the most extreme comment, it is one of many such comments you have made to me and others within the organization.  This letter is meant to inform you that if, in fact, upon arrival at training camp you carry out any of these threats, the team intends to use all available fines, and contractual remedies to deal with this behavior.  Your stance is unacceptable and will not be tolerated.



As we have discussed previously, you breached your contract by refusing to report to the clubs mandatory mini-camp.  Your refusal to report is a default under the Signing Bonus addendum in your contract.  In accordance with the terms of the Signing Bonus addendum of your contract, the club hereby demands repayment of $1,725,000 (i.e., the portion of your Signing Bonus that you are required to repay to the club as a result of your breach) by August 12, 2005.  Should you fail to repay that total amount by August 12, 2005, we will begin deducting the above amount in equal installments from your game checks, and any other compensation owed to you by the club, or we will initiate a non-injury grievance for repayment of money owed to the club due to your breach.



Please be advised that any additional breaches of your contract and/or violations of club rules will result in the club imposing fines against you in accordance with the Collective Bargaining Agreement and club rules.  Repeated violations of club rules will result in escalation of the discipline imposed by the club and increasing fine amounts, up to and including you being fined and/or suspended for Conduct Detrimental to the club.



Sincerely,



Andy Reid

Executive VP Football Operations/Head Coach

cc: Drew Rosenhaus

2nd letter

Dear Terrell:

I write to tell you that we are sending you home, effective immediately, based on your recent conduct at training camp.  Your behavior has been unacceptable since you reported to camp.  Let me give you a few examples of what I mean.



As you are well aware, your NFL Player Contract requires you to, among other things, give your best efforts and loyalty to the Club.  You have failed on two occasions to report to mandatory autograph sessions, per your contract.  At least twice, you have been insubordinate to our offensive coordinator.  In addition, you have talked back to me and been insubordinate.  This disruptive behavior can not be tolerated.  In spite of your behavior that violates the terms of your contract, no further action is being taken by the club at this time, but in no way does the club condone your actions.  We will reserve the right to take further action based on your recent behavior.



You will be required to report to the NovaCare Facility on Wednesday August 17, 2005 at 7:30 am to meet with Rick Burkholder.  If you do not report on August 17, 2005 at 7:30 am, you will be in violation of the terms of your contract.  In the interim, you will be required to have twice daily treatment sessions with Dr. Mike Hatrak.  You must contact Dr. Hatrak at 770-740-9200 or 770-598-0913 to arrange for your treatment sessions.  Our club physician will direct Dr, Hatrak on your treatment protocol.  We will be monitoring those treatment sessions and follow up with Dr. Hatrak to ensure that you are in compliance with our club physician's directives. 



We expect you to return to the Eagles on August 17, 2005 with a renewed attitude and focus.  That includes abiding by all terms of your contract, being respectful to your teammates and coaches and playing within a structure that will lead us all to have success.



Sincerely,





Andy Reid

Executive VP Football Operations/Head Coach



cc:            NFLPA

                 NFL Management Council 

3rd letter:

Dear Terrell:



When I sent you home on August 10, it was my hope that you could cool off and return with a renewed attitude and focus.  I attempted, in a non-provocative way, to give you a chance to start from scratch.  Since that time, you have made a spectacle of this situation, continued to criticize teammate and coaches, and made false statements to the media.  I am trying hard to work with you and give you the benefit of the doubt; you are making that almost impossible.



In my initial letter dated July 26, 2005 I notified you that your threats to me during a telephone conversation that "when (you) report to training camp you plan to be disruptive and act in a deviant manner" was an unacceptable stance and would be dealt with accordingly.  By your own admission, last night in front of a national television audience, you have ignored me and others and been insubordinate to me and confirmed that you told our offensive coordinator "only speak to me when I speak to you."  You also said that you "don't think so: when asked if you can succeed with our QB.  Most concerning is your statement that you will not change your behavior when you report back to camp on August 17, 2005. Clearly you have followed through with your threat from our phone conversation and your actions have been totally inappropriate and detrimental to the team.  I am now putting you on notice a third time, that this is a violation of Club rules which allows the Club to impose fines against you in accordance with Article VIII of the NFL Collective Bargaining Agreement and the Club's 2005 Maximum Discipline Schedule.  Continuing violations of Club rules will constitute Conduct Detrimental to the Club, which will subject you to a fine of an amount equal to one week's salary and/or suspension for a period not to exceed four weeks.  You cannot expect me to continue to warn you and not take significant action if this continues.



In addition, we put you on notice on at least two previous occasions, specifically on July 26, 2005 and August 10, 2005, that paragraph 2 of your NFL Player contract states:  "(Player) agrees to give his best effort and loyalty to the Club, and to conduct himself on and off the field with appropriate recognition of the fact that the success of professional football depends largely on public respect for and approval of those associated with the game."  Failing to appear at two mandatory autograph signing sessions, is a violation of paragraph 2 and a clear breach of your contract.  Your actions will not be tolerated any longer and we will deal with any further violation by using all and any avenue available to us.



Lying about signing a non-existent waiver is certainly not constructive in terms of our relationship, and does not further anyone's goals.  Especially since the reality is that we bent over backwards to make you aware that we were more than willing to share the risk with you. 



We also want to make you aware of at least three instances in which you violated team rules. On August 4, 2005, you did not bring your playbook to a team meeting.  At a separate meeting, you also refused to open your playbook.  On August 5, 2005 you slept through a team meeting.  This resulting in the coaching staff having to correct you during practice to make sure you where in the proper position.  Finally, on August 5, 2005 you were late to a mandatory treatment session with our trainers.  Although collectively these are violations of the team rules, we are not going to fine you for these violations at this time, but you are on notice that further violations of squad rules may result in doubling and tripling of fine amounts for repeat violations, and continued violations thereafter may result in fines and/or suspension for Conduct Detrimental to the Club.



We expect you to treat our coaches and your teammates with respect and to communicate with the people who attempt to communicate with you.  In addition, if there is any mandatory team activity you are required to appear on time, participate in it and behave professionally.  If you do not comply with the directives I have outlined above, you will be in violation of the terms of your contract and/or subject to fines and/or suspension.



Let me stress again, that we are putting you on notice for the third time that your actions are inappropriate.  If you continue to act this way we will deem this to be conduct detrimental to the club which will subject you to a fine of an amount equal to one week's salary and/or suspension for a period not to exceed four weeks.  It is my hope that contrary to your public and privately stated positions, your behavior will change when you return.  I have been very clear in what we deem to be appropriate and inappropriate behavior on at least three occasions now, and I advise you to take my words to heart.



Sincerely,





Andy Reid

Executive VP Football Operations/Head Coach



cc:            NFLPA

[SD_Eagle5]

NFLPA wants to have Bloch dismissed 

(Updated story from before)

WAHHHHH WAHHHHH.

STFU.

Upshaw and the NFLPA were obviously upset with the outcome, but what REALLY got them steamed was that Bloch added shtein to the CBA to support the Eagles 

Amazing that Bloch has such a great reputation and ruled overwhelmingly in the Eagles favor:

Bloch has been an arbitrator in sports-related cases for more than two decades and has presided over grievances in general for 30 years. Last week, before the Owens hearing, attorney Jeffrey Kessler, who was co-counsel for the wide receiver, seemed confident that Bloch would rule in favor of his client.

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

Wow.  This stuff is very eye-opening.

The Eagles did well to keep everything documented, and it would appear Owens truly never had any chance in this arbitration whatsoever.  I hope the NFL rejects the NFLPA's attempted ousting of Richard Bloch, too.

[General_Failure]

Now we all know where the phrase anal retentive comes from. People that take an incredible amount of notes are looking to farg your ass up.

[SD_Eagle5]

  I hope the NFL rejects the NFLPA's attempted ousting of Richard Bloch, too.

[Heard this on ESPN radio] but under the CBA the NFLPA supposedly has the right to do what they please as far as arbitrators go. So he's as good as gone.

Just finished reading the entire transcript and my conclusion is that TO is nuttier than a shteinhouse rat.

[SD_Eagle5]

Players reaction

Hollis! 

[Diomedes]

You must contact Dr. Hatrak at 770-740-9200 or 770-598-0913 to arrange for your treatment sessions. Our club physician will direct Dr, Hatrak on your treatment protocol.

I just called the Doc.  He wasn't pleased.  But just like in Blitz: The League, that didn't stop him from giving me a 'script for dilaudid, so I'm satisfied.

[Rome]

LMFAO @ Dio...

[PhillyGirl]

I luv me sum Hollis.

Dude rules for what he said. 

[Diomedes]

Also, I wonder:  where is Jesse farging Jackson now?  Is he going to March on Philadelphia?  Bring his million rainbow warriors and speechify??  Idiot.

[General_Failure]

Les Bowen is a creepy locker room stalker. Can't blame him though, I luv me sum Hollis too.