What's Wrong with the Defense?

Started by SunMo, November 14, 2005, 11:19:04 AM

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dmek25

try to figure out if the eagles window is closing or already closed as you guys drift back to being the same old eagles that sucked forever

rjs246

Ah right, an unemployed member of the Dead Tree Crew. Well, that explains that.
Is rjs gonna have to choke a bitch?

Let them eat bootstraps.

SunMo

this would help....

QuoteJets | Abraham's future with team may be in doubt
Thu, 29 Dec 2005 09:02:11 -0800

Mark Cannizzaro, of the New York Post, reports there are many within the New York Jets organization that would like to lock up DE John Abraham to a long-term contract. However, according to a highly placed NFL source familiar with the thinking of the Jets brass and who spoke only on the condition of anonymity, Jets owner Woody Johnson is "reluctant" to dole out a huge signing bonus to Abraham. If that is true, Abraham may find himself looking for a new team in 2006. Now the question facing the Jets is this: Do they think enough of Abraham to sign him for the long term, do they franchise him again and pay him $8 million for next season, or do they use him as trade bait to obtain a veteran quarterback or a better position in the draft? Abraham said he's prepared for all three scenarios.

could you imagine a DE rotation of Abraham, Kearse, Cole, and ??? (McDougle i guess)

3rd downs, you could rush Abraham and Cole at opposite ends and move Kearse to Joker and send him from whatever position  :drool
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General_Failure


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MadMarchHare

That would be sweet.  However, I can't see them tying up that much dough in 2 DEs.
Anyone but Reid.

SunMo

Quote from: MadMarchHare on December 29, 2005, 02:42:08 PM
That would be sweet.  However, I can't see them tying up that much dough in 2 DEs.

yeah, i agree.  but it's a good wet dream
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PoopyfaceMcGee

Quote from: MadMarchHare on December 29, 2005, 02:42:08 PM
That would be sweet.  However, I can't see them tying up that much dough in 2 DEs.

They wouldn't really be tying that much up, because Kearse is gone after 2006.

General_Failure

Kearse could be gone right now and nobody would even notice.

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SunMo

Quote from: General_Failure on December 29, 2005, 05:30:09 PM
Kearse could be gone right now and nobody would even notice.

opposing tackles would notice when they actually had to block an inside move.
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General_Failure

They'd probably notice whatever undersized DE replaces him is 50 pounds heavier too.

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Feva

Quote from: General_Failure on December 29, 2005, 05:30:09 PM
Kearse could be gone right now and nobody would even notice.

Kearse is gone.  Been gone for the past month.  The fact that you didn't even notice proves your point though.  Congratulations.
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PhillyPhreak54

Quote from: FFatPatt on December 29, 2005, 03:19:59 PM
Quote from: MadMarchHare on December 29, 2005, 02:42:08 PM
That would be sweet.  However, I can't see them tying up that much dough in 2 DEs.

They wouldn't really be tying that much up, because Kearse is gone after 2006.

Not a chance, man. He's got too much dead money to be cut loose...

Quote2006: $4,200,000 (2.075 mil base salary+2 mil proration+125K workout bonus; $8,000,000 dead money if cut)
2007: $7,325,000 (5.2 mil base salary+2 mil proration+125K workout bonus; $6,000,000 dead money if cut)
2008: $8,585,000 (6.46 mil base salary+2 mil proration+125K workout bonus; $4,000,000 dead money if cut)
2009: $9,720,000 (7.72 mil base salary+2 mil proration; $2,000,000 dead money if cut)
2010: $8,980,000 (base salary)
2011: $10,240,000 (base salary)

General_Failure

Quote from: EagleFeva on December 30, 2005, 05:45:23 AM
Quote from: General_Failure on December 29, 2005, 05:30:09 PM
Kearse could be gone right now and nobody would even notice.

Kearse is gone.  Been gone for the past month.  The fact that you didn't even notice proves your point though.  Congratulations.

I was going to go there, but it's too much effort without enough payoff. I see you're a gambler though. :)

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PoopyfaceMcGee

Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on December 30, 2005, 08:29:18 AM
Quote from: FFatPatt on December 29, 2005, 03:19:59 PM
They wouldn't really be tying that much up, because Kearse is gone after 2006.

Not a chance, man. He's got too much dead money to be cut loose...

Quote2006: $4,200,000 (2.075 mil base salary+2 mil proration+125K workout bonus; $8,000,000 dead money if cut)
2007: $7,325,000 (5.2 mil base salary+2 mil proration+125K workout bonus; $6,000,000 dead money if cut)
2008: $8,585,000 (6.46 mil base salary+2 mil proration+125K workout bonus; $4,000,000 dead money if cut)
2009: $9,720,000 (7.72 mil base salary+2 mil proration; $2,000,000 dead money if cut)
2010: $8,980,000 (base salary)
2011: $10,240,000 (base salary)

Surely ye jest, Phreakster.

2007, as of now, is an uncapped year.  Even once the new CBA is agreed to, it is unlikely to be nearly as restrictive a cap as in years past.  Also, 2007 is the first year Kearse would cost the team less in cap room to cut him than keep him.  And if that's not enough, you're probably not factoring in that his initial signing bonus was probably partially structured as a roster bonus, so the dead money hits are likely to be smaller than your amounts.

I still say he's gone after 2006, unless he has an absolute monster year in 2006... which I doubt.

PhillyPhreak54

Well, we'll see. You very well could be right about the new CBA factoring into the decision. But I think he'll be here for a few more years.

I got the numbers from this site and he's been as accurate as anyone I've seen on the net so far.

Kearse did get a RB but it was $4M and paid in 2004. He had a $12M SB on top of the $4M RB.