AR press conference

[Don Ho]

anybody hope TO's out for the year?

Reno will be devastated.

[MURP]

The injury is making a HUGE difference. You are denying that.

I've already shown that McNabb is having a year that is about on course with every other season he has had other than his career year. 

[rjs246]

The big differences there were....

1.  In 2003, McNabb was healing, so Reid knew he wouldn't have to rely on the run the rest of the season.  In 2005, McNabb has ZERO CHANCE OF IMPROVING WITHOUT SURGERY, and Reid wouldn't dare go run-first for a whole season.

2.  In 2003, the team had three capable backs with three very different styles.  This kept the defenses off-balance.  In 2005, they have no one who can wear down a defense at all.

3.  In 2003, the team had a joke of a WR corps.  In 2005, (now matter how much you hate him) they have T.O.

etc etc

1. Agreed.

2. I would be willing to bet that beefy Lamar Gordon and Westbrook could do a lot of damage and wearing down, so I don't agree with your point here at all.

3. Agreed. Which gets back to my original point about TO being hurt actually improving our offensive play calling and forcing this team to actually play well rather than relying on the occasional big play.

[Rome]

I see how it is going to be.  FF and Romey are going to twist words and make it out like Im saying McNabb has always been a bad QB.  Good one.  You guys could join Bush in the White House with that type of spin. 

LOL.  You're giving me way too much credit here, bro.

I'm still so hungover, I can barely function let alone twist anything anyone says.

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

The hernia was discovered after the Oakland game, right?  Might have been suffered before that, but let's assume not.

Since then...

93/162 (57.4%), 1070 yds, 7 TD, 5 INT, 78.1 rating (last 4 games)

He played a phenominal KC game fresh off the news of the injury, but since then...

60/114 (52.6%), 701 yds, 4 TD, 4 INT, 68.6 rating (last 3 games)


Say what you want about his past, his streakiness, his completion percentage, etc, but his overall performance is much worse than usual, and it's because of the injury.  If you disagree with me, you're simply just wrong.

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

2. I would be willing to bet that beefy Lamar Gordon and Westbrook could do a lot of damage and wearing down, so I don't agree with your point here at all.

I should have phrased it that we have no one proven to be able to wear down a defense.  By the way, this also factors in the fullback situation, as Ritchie in 2003 did an excellent job.

[rjs246]

2. I would be willing to bet that beefy Lamar Gordon and Westbrook could do a lot of damage and wearing down, so I don't agree with your point here at all.

I should have phrased it that we have no one proven to be able to wear down a defense.  By the way, this also factors in the fullback situation, as Ritchie in 2003 did an excellent job.

Yeah. Not having Ritchie is a farging farce and puts a serious damper on my diabolical plot to force the Eagles to run more.

[Wingspan]

So, you're saying McNabb just sucks in general and that his injury has very little to do with it, right?

I dont think McNabb sucks in general.  I think McNabb's accuracy is streaky and can downright suck at times.  It was like that before he ever had this hernia.   Does anyone disagree with that?

yes and no.

going back to the midpoint of 2003 (the giants game where he hit a career low of 39.1%) through the first few games this season. which is a pretty big sampling. his accuracy was greatly improved overall, and very seldomly has a patheticly innaccurate game (sub 50%).

2003
wk8 - W - 73.9%
wk9 - W - 63.6
wk10 - W - 48.4 (bad weather monday night game vs green bay)
wk11 - W - 80.0
wk12 - W - 64.0
wk13 - W - 69.2
wk14 - W - 52.9
wk15 - W - 55.6
wk16 - L - 63.0
wk17 - W - 71.9
p1 - W - 53.8
p2 - L - 45.5 (hurt, did not finish game)

2004
wk1 - W - 72.2
wk2 - W - 67.9
wk3 - W - 69.0
wk4 - W - 63.2
wk5 - bye
wk6 - W - 53.8
wk7 - W - 65.1
wk8 - W - 54.5
wk9 - L - 62.5
wk10 - W - 55.6
wk11 - W - 69.2
wk12 - W - 66.7
wk13 - W - 74.4
wk14 - W - 55.3
wk15 - W - 57.1
wk16 - L - 100.0 (rams game, played 1 series)
wk17 - dnp
p1 - W - 63.6
p2 - W - 65.4
sb - 58.8

2005
wk1 - L - 53.3
wk2 - W - 79.3
wk3 - W - 57.7
wk4 - W - 68.8
wk5 - L - 50.0
wk6 - bye
wk7 - 64.8
wk8 - L - 35.3

incidentally, most of his sub 60% games came against either washington, dallas, or carolina.

i dont think you can evaluate mcnabb on what happened pre 2003 at this point. it's ancient history. another interesting stat was that yesterday, was only the 3rd time in mcnabbs career that he lost a game while his YPA was over 8.00 out of 22 games with a YPA over 8.

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

Well, his YPA wouldn't have been over 8 if T.O. didn't take that short little pass 91 yards to the house.

[General_Failure]

Which wouldn't have happened if there was any kind of defense beyond the line of scrimmage.

[MURP]

The hernia was discovered after the Oakland game, right? Might have been suffered before that, but let's assume not.

why assume not?  The team said it surfaced in training camp.

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

Fine.  You're simply not watching the same games I am if you don't think this injury is severely hampering McNabb.

[WEST is GOD]

I don't think the injury is what is making McNabb bad, I think it is all mental. You can tell when the man is in pain and he showed no signs of that yesterday. I think he's afraid of getting hit and he's getting happy feet. Where the injury comes in is he panics more than usual which gives him worse happy feet than usual and makes his throws worse than usual.

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

So, let me get this straight... the injury isn't making McNabb bad, but his body's natural protective instincts are heightened because of the injury, and he is therefore playing a little scared and not as well.

Forgive me for pointing out the obvious, but either way, it's because of the injury, no?

[WEST is GOD]

Well yes in a way it is, but I don't think the pain is the issue. The pain can't be corrected. The mental side of it can. That is why I believe that McNabb can get back to a pro bowl level. He just needs to stop being afraid of getting crushed. Maybe if Andy ran the ball more he'd get more comfortable back there.