Brian Westbrook Is Not There And Not Expected To Show UP!!

[jeffreyjpa]

Agreed, on all points. I'm hopeful that TO continues to do the right things, regardless of his agent who is still trying to save his own face/ass. I heard Didinger saying something to that effect two weeks ago, that he believed Rosenhaus got TO all worked up, and then couldn't control him...sounded pretty dead-on to me, from what we've seen.

And, I agree that TO, AR, and Donovan should be able to patch things up enough to do great things this season. I hope they all share that common goal, now that they're all in camp. Without TO in camp, none of that would be possible, so I give him credit for that.

[PhillyGirl]

Agreed, on all points. I'm hopeful that TO continues to do the right things, regardless of his agent who is still trying to save his own face/ass. I heard Didinger saying something to that effect two weeks ago, that he believed Rosenhaus got TO all worked up, and then couldn't control him...sounded pretty dead-on to me, from what we've seen.

And, I agree that TO, AR, and Donovan should be able to patch things up enough to do great things this season. I hope they all share that common goal, now that they're all in camp. Without TO in camp, none of that would be possible, so I give him credit for that.

What I saw happen was a guy (TO), who always needs to have his ego stroked (like a lot of athletes do), found the best/worst possible person to do so. Rosenhaus got him all worked up with, "I can make you a ton of money....you're worth so much more than this....you're the best, I can make them see that...you don't need them as much as they need you....I am the only one who can get the money from the Eagles....you're the greatest...the fans will all side with you....", etc.  Most players hear this babble and believe every word of it. TO especially. Once he heard it, he started spitting out words that clearly came out of Rosenhaus' mouth (verbatim).

Until TO saw the reaction of the fans and front office, he believed what Rosenhaus told him. Once he saw guys like Jevon Walker, Reuben Droughns, Edgerrin James and others start reporting to camps....and then realized the fact that he didn't want to start losing $6,000 a day...he figured out that he had to report to camp. Even if his agent told him otherwise. So he said he was going to camp. Rosenhaus heard this and immediately started his "damage control"....saying that he still might not...and that he could leave at any time...etc. TO kept quiet and showed up...and kept quiet when he got there.

[jeffreyjpa]

Although I think we've (me especially) now made this thread another TO-focused one--my apologies--I'll make one last point, because it dovetails with your last post, PG.

I think it's great that TO came to camp and ignored the 50-100 media folks who camped out there all day looking for him to either be apologetic or incendiary. I would've bet $100 that that's exactly what he would've done and should've done (kept quiet), and all of the media-types who complained about him not speaking to them because "it's like ignoring the fans" are full of shtein. They were just pissed off that they spent four hours in the hot sun and came away with nothing to dissect.

Right now in this situation, he's best served by the old cliched "If you have nothing nice to say, say nothing at all." Discuss the dirty laundry behind closed doors with the appropriate parties and make peace, and then put on smiles when you face the public. That is the best way for them all to put this behind them.

[Wingspan]

god i hate this shtein.

i become less and less of a sports fan every offseason.

[Mad-Lad]

god i hate this shtein.

i become less and less of a sports fan every offseason.

till kickoff, when you forget about all of it.

[Wingspan]

god i hate this shtein.

i become less and less of a sports fan every offseason.

till kickoff, when you forget about all of it.

yep...i say thats pretty accurate.

i guess i should say i pay less and less to the offseason stuff every year

[General_Failure]

i guess i should say i pay less and less to the offseason stuff every year

It's working well for me so far. Offseason information is overrated.

[PhillyPhreak54]

i guess i should say i pay less and less to the offseason stuff every year

It's working well for me so far. Offseason information is overrated.

Blasphemy! You know you love the contract details, the in-house bickering and the agents getting more face time than Jenna Jameson is a pr0n flick.

[Wingspan]

who wants to see jenna's face in a pr0n flick?

[PhillyPhreak54]

Good point. Sub vadge for face and we're cool.

By the way, just to add to the question of exactly what the Birds offered Westbrook, Gargano said his people told him that they offered him a 4-year deal with $9M to sign.

[Eaglez]

I'm assuming the 9 mil is the signing bonus or not? If it's for 4 years do you know the salary structure for those years?

[BigEd76]

Probably 4/$20M/$9M....

[PhillyPhreak54]

I'm assuming the 9 mil is the signing bonus or not? If it's for 4 years do you know the salary structure for those years?

Yeah, the SB. That's all Gargano talked about...no total money just the up front coin.

[jeffreyjpa]

Sounds reasonable to me, if Ed's figures are close to what was offered. No matter what he wants to believe, he ain't LT or Priest.

[PhillyGirl]

Sounds reasonable to me, if Ed's figures are close to what was offered. No matter what he wants to believe, he ain't LT or Priest.

This is all speculation. We've seen figures thrown at us from all different "sources" so far...so I don't know what to believe.