SI.com: Pre Season Rankings - Eagles #5

[Tomahawk]

To say the Eagles would not have made the playoffs without T.O. is downright ludicrous.

The Eagles are undoubtedly a better team without Owens. He was the difference in winning most games by double digits as opposed to some of the games being a little closer.

Irregardless, I may be a little biased as I think Owens is a motherfarging meatciclesucking cornhole packing douchebag.

So doesn't winning by more points mean the team is better?

I'm not saying we wouldn't have made it without him, but to say they're better without Owens is the ludicrous part.

Those 2 sentences you just wrote make no sense being put back to back.

I did not type the Eagles are better without Owens. I did type that I have a profound hatred for the man though.

[Tomahawk]

Well I'll be damned (seriously, I probably will be). I made a typo. I meant the Eagles are undoubtedly a better team with Owens.

[RezRob]

To TO's credit, he just came off a broken leg. If he was 100% healthy at least one of those big catches would've been taken to the house. That gives us a parade right there.

Easy there farging Carnac....

Oh and thanks for the flash about his broken leg I had almost forgotten it was barely publicized 

[WEST is GOD]

Of course we're a better offense with him. But I believe 100% that we could win a superbowl with or without hm and for an Eagles fan to believe that we couldn't doesn't make sense to me. This team has proven over and over again under Reid that no one player makes or breaks the team. Even when McNabb, unquestionably the most important player on the team, went out we went 4-1 and locked up hfa.

Philly fans (myself included) are starting to get into panic mode. We've had 4 legit shots and missed on all four. Everyone's looking for that one thing to push us over. You know what I think? There is no one thing. Add Tomlinson to the team. Add the best linbackers, Tackles, Tight End and and #2 Wr in the history of the world and this team still operates the same way. Take away some key components and this team patches up the hole and does what its supposed to do. If TO is on the team the offense is better. If he isn't we still have a legit shot. It's stupid to put so much emphasis on one player.

Man, that plugging in players thing isn't going to work forever. For one when Mcnabb got hurt we DID miss a beat. Koy and Feeley ripped apart the Niners, but we scored like 10 points against the Rams, and didn't exactly do that great against Seattle. On top of that we didn't win a Superbowl. This isn't about plugging in players and not missing a beat. You can always do that during the regular season. When you lose key players in the playoffs is when it hurts you. Remember Westbrook against Carolina? They exposed that. We destroyed the taterskins without him during the regular season. I've never bought that no player on this team can't be replaced. I think there are at least 4 players that if this team lost them our title hopes would take a huge hit.

In the last 3 years we have lost Mcnabb, Westbrook and TO respectively. Yes, we played ok without them, but most importantly we didn't get where we wanted to go. That is the most important thing.

[phattymatty]

Well I'll be damned (seriously, I probably will be). I made a typo. I meant the Eagles are undoubtedly a better team with Owens.

that makes a little more sense then.  even if you hate the man you have to admit he's good.

[rjs246]

Monster, my point is still the same. There is no reason to elevate TO above the other players on this team and say HE and he alone is the key to winning the superbowl. It's stupid and incorrect.

[WEST is GOD]

...and my point is still the same.

TO is more key to this team than 50 other players. Not saying those guys aren't important, I'm saying TO is the 3rd most important on this team. You are right. TO alone isn't the key himself to win a title, but the point is we have a much better team with him. The goal is to put the best possible team on the field. Not a team that isn't as good. Without TO we aren't as good. That is my point. I want to see the best team on the field at all times. Why? Because I want to know we have the best possible chance to get a parade in this city.

[rjs246]

TO's talent makes us a better team, talent wise. But I have serious concerns about his other traits and how they impact the team. And don't give me any guff about this team not letting TO distract them. That's horseshtein. If you're going to place a higher importance on one player you have to put an equal importance on his jackass character issues, because like it or not, it does have an impact.

We're never going to agree on this so I'm not going to belabor the point any more. Suffice to say I don't like TO and I think that the longer he's on this team the more his bitchy ass is going to negatively affect them, but I will admit that the offense is more dangerous with him. But at what cost? What if he doesn't get that superbowl win this year? What if he stays for another year and keeps acting like a bitch? This team will eventually be worn down by his bullshtein. It happens in every sport at every level of competition and he's just the kind of assbag to do it.

[WEST is GOD]

TO's talent makes us a better team, talent wise. But I have serious concerns about his other traits and how they impact the team. And don't give me any guff about this team not letting TO distract them. That's horseshtein. If you're going to place a higher importance on one player you have to put an equal importance on his jackass character issues, because like it or not, it does have an impact.

We're never going to agree on this so I'm not going to belabor the point any more. Suffice to say I don't like TO and I think that the longer he's on this team the more his bitchy ass is going to negatively affect them, but I will admit that the offense is more dangerous with him. But at what cost? What if he doesn't get that superbowl win this year? What if he stays for another year and keeps acting like a bitch? This team will eventually be worn down by his bullshtein. It happens in every sport at every level of competition and he's just the kind of assbag to do it.

Then I guess we'll leave it at finding out during the season.

[Tomahawk]

Finding what out?  It's already known that T.O.'s a bigger douche than even you.

[WEST is GOD]

Maybe if you read his post and then read mine you could come up with that answer. Am I overestimating your intelligence?

[Tomahawk]

Yes, you indeed are overestimating my intelligence. His post has a lot of what I call words in it. Your post contains what I call a lot of retardation in it, to which I can obviously relate; however, I am still unable to decipher what that has to do with anything other than you being a douche.

[WEST is GOD]

He thinks TO will negatively hurt the team during the season. I don't. We'll find out if he does during the season.

Was it honestly that complicated?

[General_Failure]

Well I'll be damned (seriously, I probably will be). I made a typo. I meant the Eagles are undoubtedly a better team with Owens.

I didn't actually read most of this bullshtein, so I'm assuming at least one person couldn't figure that out on their own.