Eagles Fired Tom Gamble

[SD]

why anyone would think he was in a gang

[ice grillin you]

it was good reporting in the sense that he got something....or went after something....that nobody else did

he got nothing...that's the whole point....it was fabricated...someone in the eagle front office said he was a gang  member and he wrote a story

[SD]

it was good reporting in the sense that he got something....or went after something....that nobody else did

the story being nonsense, or as you said, possibly racist is secondary. in the game today you simply gotta do it. im one of them off brand stillupfront's moms, by the way.

There was nothing racist about the story. The problem I have with it is the Eagles working with the clown NJ.com writer to release it right before they released Jaccson. Despicable and dirty.

[Rome]

I think he changed his mind about specifically working with Roseman, not necessarily anything else.   He came to the Eagles as a coach and he remains that, but if he's going to be on the hook for what happens on the field, he better be comfortable with the guys who are responsible for hiring the players he's going to be coaching.

you dont like roseman because hes a short nerdy jew...not because of anything specific he's down as a GM

there's no such thing as a roseman fan, but the vitriol toward him is completely unfounded.

I don't like Howie Roseman because he's an arrogant ass with no background in football matters other than checking pluses and minuses on a ledger sheet.   I want a guy with actual football experience from a personnel perspective and I don't care if his name is Afrika Bambatta, John Doe or Hymie Berkowitz.

[AshishPatel81]

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I'd take her to #town

Suffers from Dave Fipp disease.

[ice grillin you]

I think he changed his mind about specifically working with Roseman, not necessarily anything else.   He came to the Eagles as a coach and he remains that, but if he's going to be on the hook for what happens on the field, he better be comfortable with the guys who are responsible for hiring the players he's going to be coaching.

you dont like roseman because hes a short nerdy jew...not because of anything specific he's down as a GM

there's no such thing as a roseman fan, but the vitriol toward him is completely unfounded.

I don't like Howie Roseman because he's an arrogant ass with no background in football matters other than checking pluses and minuses on a ledger sheet.   I want a guy with actual football experience from a personnel perspective and I don't care if his name is Afrika Bambatta, John Doe or Hymie Berkowitz.

I was all with you when he was hired...but the non football experience ship has sailed...he commanded a highly successful nfl draft and has scouted for numerous years now....look I wont miss him but the thing about him being an accountant which I admittedly was all over at one time is no longer relevant...I like you am happy hes gone but id rather have him over chip in that position and the utter and pure hatred towards him is way over the top

[QB Eagles]

I don't give a farg if the GM has football personnel experience or not. There's a whole team of scouts and personnel people working for every NFL team. The idea that Howie was personally breaking down tape and deciding who to pursue is ridiculous. Bean counting is a big part of the job. You can be a bean counter and have success, or you can be a former scout and have success, or a coach or whatever. You have to be able to handle a lot of different aspects of team business. It's not a one-dimensional job that any particular lower position can qualify you for.

Success at being a GM is more about a person's skills and instincts than their background, imho. Similar to a lot of other executive jobs where you are building an organization, not down in the weeds in every decision.

[ice grillin you]

actually non monetary gm's break down tons of tape 365 days of year....howie more than most probably...it was what he was known for.....its what they do 365 days a year....its why a coach imo shouldn't also be gm...there isn't enough time

to your point of course theres a reason teams have a full PP division of scouts and the like who all give the gm input but the idea that a gm doesn't go thru tape and doesn't decide players he likes is crazy....in fact they not only go thru tape but they go in person to see players play in games and work out

[QB Eagles]

It's definitely his job to make the final call on what guys they like. His guys are putting together the reports, highlighting the strengths and weaknesses, and giving him the tapes to demonstrate what they mean. Every team works a little bit differently with respect to how much power the GM has and the level of detail of his involvement in different activities. But I think the choices Howie made about who to staff his office with (and how to run it) are at least as important to the final product on the field as his decisions about what players to draft and sign. Those are the guys who shape the information he sees and they can deeply influence how he feels about any player, unless he's a megalomaniac who overrides anything he's told a la Jerry Jones.

[Rome]

Chip Kelly is a highly successful football coach who built a titanic college program in Oregon basically from scratch.  He's now coached two teams with marginal talent to 10-6 records despite having an atrocious defense that he didn't build and quarterbacks who are either the definition of average or outright disgusting.

I'm comfortable giving that guy a shot at picking his own players and evidently some of you prefer to leave it in Howie's hands.

We'll see what happens...

[ice grillin you]

Chip Kelly is a highly successful football coach who built a titanic college program in Oregon basically from scratch.  He's now coached two teams with marginal talent to 10-6 records despite having an atrocious defense that he didn't build and quarterbacks who are either the definition of average or outright disgusting.

I'm comfortable giving that guy a shot at picking his own players and evidently some of you prefer to leave it in Howie's hands.

We'll see what happens...

mike belotti built oregon

and chip has picked his own players for two years....this isn't his first shot

but yes we will see what happens....it wouldn't be the way id do it but we will know sooner rather than later whether chip can handle all this

[Rome]

The players that dominated Florida State the other night weren't Chip's?

I see.

And he may or may not have had the final say on these last two drafts but we know now for sure he'll have full say over whatever follows, so again, we'll see what happens.

[ice grillin you]

The players that dominated Florida State the other night weren't Chip's?

i don't understand what this has to do with anything

and if you followed the last two drafts and for that matter any players they have acquired since chips been here you would know that yes chip has had final say

[Rome]

You said the program was built by someone else and I pointed out the players who destroyed FSU were Kelly guys.

Not trigonometry, IGY.

[ice grillin you]

so the entire oregon program was built the other night against florida state?

what the farg is wrong with you