2014 Phillies Thread - There's Always Next Year

[ice grillin you]

Loloolololol^^^^

What planet are you on?

the one that man is melting

[Sgt PSN]

Lol

[MDS]

nobody hates jimmy...some whining on wip doesnt mean anything.

you are on quite a roll of being completely wrong

jimmy is the ultimate uppity negroid to half the fanbase

his bandwagon comments a few years ago will never be forgotten

not sure what to with this but wish you well in your alternate dimension of existence

back in reality, the phillies still suck and jimmy is still a legend. my guess where youre coming from is he should be above utley, and since hes not, something something black black race race white hustle uppity bla bla and scene.

[ice grillin you]

todays count

10k
6h

[MDS]

hof brown has the worst ops among lfs, the 6th-worst ops overall and a -1.0 war

ben revere has the 5th-worst ops among cfs. he has walked 5 times this year. he is 16th out of 18 in obp among qualified leadoff hitters. he has the 3rd-lowest walk rate in baseball.

choke has the 3rd-worst bb/k ratio among 1b. his -0.3 war is the worst among 1b. his 80 ks are 12 more than the 2nd place guy, who is mark reynolds.

man this is depressing.

[ice grillin you]

Domonic Brown has had a pretty awful 2014 season.

So far this year, Brown is hitting .218/.268/.322 with a wOBA of .258. That's dead last - 64th out of 64 - qualifying outfielders in Major League Baseball. He has four home runs, an ISO of .104, an fWAR of -0.9 and his nERD is -1.90, meaning a lineup full of Dom Browns would generate 1.9 runs less per game than a lineup full of 27 average Major Leaguers.

This one's tough to read: in 72 plate appearances this year, Bobby Abreu has eight extra-base hits. Brown has 13 in 228 plate appearances.

That's a lot of different ways to say he's been very bad. It's also a far cry from last year's numbers (.272/.324/.494, wOBA .351, 27 HRs, nERD 1.27), which netted him his first All-Star Game appearance.

But one could argue that, outside of one ridiculously hot month of May last year, Brown has been an average-to-mediocre player for his entire career.
That seems to be what Phillies bench coach Larry Bowa was referring to when he made some tough comments regarding Brown last week: "He comes to the park upbeat every day. I don't know how he does that because if it was me I'd be going crazy," Bowa said of Brown. "The big thing to be concerned about, there was a five-week period- or-six last year and if you take that away, [Brown's] numbers aren't very good. He's not playing the way he's capable of playing."

It's fair to wonder if the struggling Domonic Brown is the "real" Domonic Brown. Believe me, many Phillies fans are wondering that very thing. And at least one of their coaches is pondering the idea.

However, there are signs Brown may slowly be breaking out of his season-long slump. He's a hit in 9 out of his last 10 games, and in 28 June plate appearances, Brown is hitting .333/.321/.407 with a wOBA of .314. Oddly enough, he hasn't drawn a walk during this time, although he also went the entire, insane month of May last year without drawing a walk too, which still seems like an impossible thing to do. And, of course, this is a very small sample size, so these numbers should be viewed within that context.

Brown has had solid streaks other than May of 2013. Heading into the trade deadline back in 2011, as the Phillies were foolishly in pursuit of Hunter Pence, Brown slashed .296/.398/.366 in July. While he didn't hit any homers that month, his plate discipline and development were coming along. That was until Pence forced him down to Triple-A.

Until the last week, Brown hadn't put together any kind of streak this season, which would give one reason to hope he would pull out of his tailspin. Now, finally, there is the faintest of heartbeats.

And while it's too late to make a difference in the Phils' lost 2014 season, a good final few months would at least put Brown and Phillies management in a positive mind frame for 2015.

Or, it could make him valuable trade bait at the deadline.

[PhillyPhreak54]

Wait wait wait a goddamn second...

There's a stat called nERD?!?

No way.

[MDS]

nerds do have revel in self deprecating humor

meathheads do not

[ice grillin you]

Wait wait wait a goddamn second...

There's a stat called nERD?!?

No way.

id say you cant make this stuff up....but thats exactly what they do

[PhillyPhreak54]

Normal baseball person: "The triple crown winner totally deserves this! He's had a phenomenal season!"

SABR geek: "Negative, meathead! His nERD levels were substandard to the rest of the league by point-oh-four!"

[MDS]

global warming isnt real!

yea theres not enough science to back it up. its just al gore and his minions pushing their liberal agenda on everyone!

[Dillen]

All of you know that it doesn't have to be sabermetrics vs. traditional scouting and statistics, right? The Phillies see it that way and that's why the organization sucks. Use a combination of both and shut the hell up.

[MDS]

All of you know that it doesn't have to be sabermetrics vs. traditional scouting and statistics, right? The Phillies see it that way and that's why the organization sucks. Use a combination of both and shut the hell up.

ding ding ding ding ding

thats what pretty much every team does. farg "hinkie magic" worships nerd basketball stats and those are beneath nerd baseball stats. but this is a war between meatheads and seamheads and you need to pick a side, or one will be chosen for you (wassup).

[smeags]

seriously, every single english teacher mds ever had should be shot.

[General_Failure]

Can you blame them for giving up on a lost cause?