Bennie Logan, Philadelphia Eagle

Started by Geowhizzer, April 26, 2013, 08:53:42 PM

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ice grillin you

maybe hes talking about in practice when hes going against kelce

also did i miss where bennie gained 30 lbs....its not like hes jonathan jenkins
i can take a phrase thats rarely heard...flip it....now its a daily word

igy gettin it done like warrick

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SD

QuoteLogan Earned right to wear prestigious No. 18 as a junior in 2012. Tradition goes back to QB Matt Mauck, who wore No. 18 during 2003 national title run. Jersey is handed down to a player best representing what it means to be a Tiger on and off the field. Coordinator John Chavis on Logan: 'It's important to help your young guys learn how to practice, and leadership is not just in the games. It's every day. It's every minute you're on the field, and when you've got a guy like Bennie Logan in your room, he's going to set the tempo

General_Failure

Oh man, that ten year old tradition really means something, you don't even know.

The man. The myth. The legend.

ice grillin you

unless he goes in the next three picks jesse williams will be avaiable to the birds....meaning they could have taken a damontre moore in the 3rd round and jesse williams in the fourth in place of farging bennie logan in the 3rd
i can take a phrase thats rarely heard...flip it....now its a daily word

igy gettin it done like warrick

im the board pharmacist....always one step above yous

Chameleon

Quote from: ice grillin you on April 26, 2013, 10:35:29 PM
unless he goes in the next three picks jesse williams will be avaiable to the birds....meaning they could have taken a damontre moore in the 3rd round and jesse williams in the fourth in place of farging bennie logan in the 3rd

This logic is incorrect. Had the birds taken damontre moore in the 3rd round all picks thereafter would be affected by this alteration. So, you can't make that assumption.

ice grillin you

Quote from: Chameleon on April 26, 2013, 11:25:47 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 26, 2013, 10:35:29 PM
unless he goes in the next three picks jesse williams will be avaiable to the birds....meaning they could have taken a damontre moore in the 3rd round and jesse williams in the fourth in place of farging bennie logan in the 3rd

This logic is incorrect. Had the birds taken damontre moore in the 3rd round all picks thereafter would be affected by this alteration. So, you can't make that assumption.

actually what i said is fact not logic...or perhaps its both

anyway the point is jesse williams is better than bennie logan and they could have had him a round later...freeing them up to take another player better than bennie logan in the 3rd round...even if that player wouldnt have been damontre moore
i can take a phrase thats rarely heard...flip it....now its a daily word

igy gettin it done like warrick

im the board pharmacist....always one step above yous

Chameleon

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Quote from: ice grillin you on April 26, 2013, 11:29:52 PM
Quote from: Chameleon on April 26, 2013, 11:25:47 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 26, 2013, 10:35:29 PM
unless he goes in the next three picks jesse williams will be avaiable to the birds....meaning they could have taken a damontre moore in the 3rd round and jesse williams in the fourth in place of farging bennie logan in the 3rd

This logic is incorrect. Had the birds taken damontre moore in the 3rd round all picks thereafter would be affected by this alteration. So, you can't make that assumption.

actually what i said is fact not logic...or perhaps its both

anyway the point is jesse williams is better than bennie logan and they could have had him a round later...freeing them up to take another player better than bennie logan in the 3rd round...even if that player wouldnt have been damontre moore

What you said is not a fact. What you said is terribad logic.////

ice grillin you

Quote from: Chameleon on April 27, 2013, 02:18:10 AM
What you said is not a fact. What you said is terribad logic.

you may love bennie logan and thus dont agree with what im saying which is fine.....but lets take a look


Quote from: ice grillin you on April 26, 2013, 10:35:29 PM
unless he goes in the next three picks jesse williams will be avaiable to the birds - FACT (jesse williams will be avaiable if he doesnt go in the next three picks)

they could have taken a damontre moore in the 3rd round - FACT (damontre moore WAS available to the birds in the 3rd)

i can take a phrase thats rarely heard...flip it....now its a daily word

igy gettin it done like warrick

im the board pharmacist....always one step above yous

BigEd76

LSU bio

NFLDraftScout:
QuoteSTRENGTHS: Possesses a stout frame, thick lower-half and long, strong arms. Flashes a quick burst off the snap to slip through gaps. Possesses good upper-body strength, demonstrating the functional strength to bull-rush guards and centers deep into the pocket before ripping himself free to pursue the quarterback. Flashes the explosive upper-body strength to shed blocks quickly and latch onto backs as they attempt to run past. Occasionally will use an arm-over swim move with some effectiveness. Good lateral agility to "play the keys" and pursue down the line of scrimmage. Good hustle laterally and even for up to 10 yards downfield, earning the right to wear No. 18.

WEAKNESSES: Didn't take the step in his development in 2012 that scouts had hoped to see from him. Doesn't use his swim move often enough, simply resorting to his bull-rush, which decreases in effectiveness as he tires and loses his pad level. Gets caught up in the hand to hand combat at the line of scrimmage and loses track of the ball.

Plays with a high-motor but too often relies on his effort to make plays when his initial burst or push doesn't work, showing few complementary moves for a player with his experience. Frequently is substituted as part of LSU's rotation, which raises concerns about his readiness to play consistent snaps against even better competition in the NFL.

Compares to: Brodrick Bunkley, DT, New Orleans Saints -- Just as it was for Bunkley when leaving Florida State seven years ago, the talent is in Logan to develop into a legitimate NFL starter and perhaps even turn into a standout. To do so, however, he'll need to develop a greater array of pass rush moves. Otherwise, his strength and effort should be enough to help him carve out a niche as a solid run-stuffing presence in the middle.

NOLA.com

QuoteWhile defensive tackles Shariff Floyd of Florida and Star Lotulelei of Utah had the highest profile, Logan has made up a lot of ground as a sleeper pick. He displayed first-round talent but not on a consistent basis according to most experts.

"The more I see of this kid the more I like him," said NFL.com analyst Mike Mayock. "He plays hard. He didn't have the same kind of PR that the [Glenn] Dorseys and all of those other LSU defensive tackles have had. But he may be a better pro than he was a college player. And he was a very good college player."

Logan played end in high school and was able to add weight without losing his quickness. He's aware that his size and quickness won't get him anywhere without the smarts to play the game.

"His strength is toughness, but the other thing is his football knowledge. He has a great football IQ," said LSU defensive line coach Brick Haley, who coached the Chicago Bears defensive line for two seasons. "He's a student of the game, he understands it and it's important to him. He's going to have instant credibility because he'll be able to talk about blocking schemes and the things he's getting when he comes off the field. A lot of guys have to be taught that."

Strengths: He's far from the largest defensive tackle playing on Sundays, but he has the thick, space-filling frame needed in an NFL tackle. He has good, but not elite strength, quickness and athleticism. Logan is a relentless worker, and made many of his collegiate highlights by simply out-hustling opponents. A leader on and off the field, he was given the jersey number 18 in his final season at LSU, which has been given each season since 2003 to the player who best represents what it means to be a "Tiger on and off the field." NFL teams are always looking for a well-rounded player who excels on the field, in the locker room and away from the team, no matter what his measurable attributes are.

Weaknesses: His production in 2012 slipped from the previous season. That could be due to former first-round draft pick Michael Brockers no longer lining up beside him to draw the attention of opposing linemen. Logan never made the gains to become as coveted a commodity as Brockers, but he was no doubt productive. He also played in an often rotating defensive line unit and rarely saw action on every down of a drive, which could raise questions about his ability to handle an every-down NFL workload.

ice grillin you

bunk comparison is terrible i think....bunk flashed like crazy in college...bennie is so bleh

maybe this is a good thing tho...bunk sucked in the nfl
i can take a phrase thats rarely heard...flip it....now its a daily word

igy gettin it done like warrick

im the board pharmacist....always one step above yous

PhillyPhreak54

"...and he was a very good college player..."

Oh really? But...

ice grillin you

i can take a phrase thats rarely heard...flip it....now its a daily word

igy gettin it done like warrick

im the board pharmacist....always one step above yous

SunMo

http://www.phillymag.com/birds247/2013/11/13/wake-call-logan-azzinaro-effect/

QuoteBennie Logan was checking his Twitter feed and kept getting messages that read something to the effect of: "Now is your time." That's when he knew something was going on.

Veteran nose guard Isaac Sopoaga had been shipped to New England at the trade deadline, thrusting the third-round pick out of LSU into a starting role.

"It caught me by surprise," said Logan. "I looked up to Isaac. He was a great influence on me, a great leader. But the next day, once I came here [to the NovaCare facility], I was like, 'It's time for me to step up and go forward. Can't look back. He's not here anymore. It's just all on me now.' "

Sopoaga's brief stint in Philadelphia was a disappointment. Still, it says something about the organization's confidence in Logan that it was comfortable removing the safety net and placing the starting tackle job in the hands of a rookie. So far, Logan has rewarded that confidence.

He has 23 tackles, two sacks and three hurries on the year. More important than stats, Logan is at the center of a defensive front that is, as Mychal Kendricks said, "killing it, bro."

The linebackers have been the biggest beneficiary of the front's work. The trio of Logan, Fletcher Cox and Cedric Thornton (along with the rest of the rotation) have been effective at occupying blockers, allowing Kendricks (who is currently sidelined with a knee injury) and DeMeco Ryans to roam free. According to team stats, that duo has 213 tackles between them through 10 games. Billy Davis has said on multiple occasions now that Ryans is having a Pro Bowl year. Ryans consistently credits the d-line for letting him work.

"I think this gets lost in it, but every single practice Azz [d-line coach Jerry Azzinaro] takes those guys on the sled, and they hit the sled, which is really uncommon in the NFL," said Davis. "The level of fundamental work we do on the defensive line, and we felt that we had to have that happen for us to grow into a two‑gap system, and the young guys by the way they're playing and the techniques, their footwork, their hand placement, I think it's a tribute to the coaching they're getting at the position level and their willingness to dive in and ‑‑ you see that in the run game, and it's also why DeMeco and Mychal are productive. The front line always has a lot to do with how the inside backers are playing."

The defensive front is making the job of Ryans — the quarterback of the defense — easier in more ways than one. Under the tutelage of Azzinaro, the defensive line has a sound understanding of concepts beyond their own positional play. They are capable of making their own checks pre-snap, according to Clifton Geathers.

"He got us football smarter," said Geathers of Azzinaro. "We can look at backfield sets, we can make checks on the d-line. We know what to do and we know where the linebackers are going to be. We can say certain things and we can do certain things and the linebackers understand what we're doing."

The Eagles have allowed just one 100-yard rusher this season, and have held opponents to under 100 rushing yards in five of their last six outings. Cox is 22 years old. Thornton, one of the year's biggest surprises, is 25. Logan, 23, is the greenest of the bunch. Together, they make up a unit that is suddenly gushing with promise.
I'm the Anti-Christ. You got me in a vendetta kind of mood.

Eagaholic

If Bennie could turn out to be a very good NT and Foles a legit QB of the future, my whole outlook for this team changes dramatically. In a 3-4, especially the 2-gap they want to employ, the NT and rush backer are the core of the defense. A month ago it was looking like they might need to use their 1st and second rounders for a shot at a possible franchise QB.

If they went offense with their 1st 2 picks for the second year in a row, rebuilding the D is looking like a 4 year project. Now, if they have a legit NT and QB they can go with a rush OLB to compliment Barwin and suddenly they are looking good, especially since they should have a ton of cap space next year.

ice grillin you

Quote from: Eagaholic on November 14, 2013, 12:07:10 AM
In a 3-4, especially the 2-gap they want to employ, the NT and rush backer are the core of the defense. A month ago it was looking like they might need to use their 1st and second rounders for a shot at a possible franchise QB.

If they went offense with their 1st 2 picks for the second year in a row, rebuilding the D is looking like a 4 year project. Now, if they have a legit NT and QB they can go with a rush OLB to compliment Barwin and suddenly they are looking good, especially since they should have a ton of cap space next year.


amazing what a couple wins over the raiders and scott tolzein will do for a franchises future
i can take a phrase thats rarely heard...flip it....now its a daily word

igy gettin it done like warrick

im the board pharmacist....always one step above yous