Political Hippo Circle Jerk - America, farg YEAH!

[Sgt PSN]

People half to know the difference, right?

[SunMo]

he's a right winger, so he's part of the halfs, not the half nots

[paco]

For full disclosure:

1) I read a lot of business magazines\papers, which tend to have a right wing bias
2) Anyone who knows me well knows that, while I disagree with his economic policies on a whole, I do admit that his stimulus may have saved MY job, since I was placed on a project in 2009 on Obama bucks after being "on the bench" (not on a project) for 5 weeks.  (I do say MY job since my company was laying off lots of people who were under performing.  I was one of the few lucky ones) 

Being that said I have seen quite a few people out there who criticize the stimulus.  So I disagree with the statements that no one is questioning it and that it's a "fact" that unemployment would have been higher (since its impossible to know for sure.)

I'm not saying people (especially republican politicians and talking heads) don't question the stimulus as a whole, or whatever effect it has had on the recovery(though I personally don't see how a stimulus would somehow hinder people from hiring 3 years later)...but I have yet to read a credible source (ie one without an agenda) that says that unemployment would have stayed lower during the recession itself had there been no stimulus...and in fact it goes against common sense for that to be true.

Good point.  Most critisims I have seen was the long term ramifications and to the extent it was effective.

[PhillyPhreak54]

Good stuff on the Reagan piece and it sums up how I feel about a lot of people now. They're so damn hardheaded that they refuse to concede anything. It's all about toeing the party line and that's it.

No give and take. Just insults and stubbornness.

You should hear the conservatives down here now. The immigration deal yesterday that Obama spoke about? These rednecks have lost their minds. The blatant ignorant racist comments are sickening.

[General_Failure]

Towing.

[Hawk]

Oh lord they are criticizing typos now.    Conservatives need to compromise but a Democrat Legislature shoved an unpopular healthcare law through and Obama just circumvented Congress.

[General_Failure]

You're an idiot. Shut it.

[ice grillin you]

You're an idiot racist pig. Die.

much better

[Hawk]

Excellent rebuttals.    Igy's right ... 2001 thru 08 was much worse.   We will always remember the booming time of 09 to 12.   Watch out roaring twenties.

[ice grillin you]

no stem cell research
911
lying the nation into a war
brownie you are doing a wondeful job
huge deregulation
torture
mission accomplished
massive tax cuts for the wealthy

i wont go on

other than reagan really no president can compare to dub.....a clueless ignorant dope of a guy who tried to aw sucks anyone who didnt buy into his disasterous beliefs and policies...he bankrupted the country....bulldozed the constitution...appointed incompetant yes men into every area of government he could which resulted in disasterous effects....

oh and he also made the rest of the world hate us...when people look back and ask where did america start to turn bad and lose it place as the leader of the world they will always point to your hero dubb....china is the manufacturing giant of the world.....india the services king....and europe is the place where one has the best quality of living

[Sgt PSN]

But you can't get a decent Whopper or Big Mac in any of those places. 

[General_Failure]

There's always the Royale with Cheese.

[ice grillin you]

great beatdown of slimy tucker carlson by sam donaldson....in regards to his ahole hitman he sent to the whitehouse yesterday....and kudos to chris wallace for the defense....if we can keep getting more and more level headed republicans to stray a little bit away from the hawk type zealots then maybe we can start to turn things sane again

NEW YORK -- Shortly after Daily Caller reporter Neil Munro interrupted President Barack Obama's remarks on changes in immigration policy Friday, Editor-in-Chief Tucker Carlson suggested to The Huffington Post that the reporter's actions were similar to those of former White House correspondent Sam Donaldson during the Reagan years.

In a later official statement, Carlson again mentioned Donaldson when taking issue with ABC News anchor Diane Sawyer dismissing Munro as a "heckler."

"I don't remember Diane Sawyer scolding her colleague Sam Donaldson for heckling President Reagan," Carlson said. "And she shouldn't have. A reporter's job is to ask questions and get answers."

But Donaldson, remembered for his aggressive questioning during the Reagan years and for sparring with White House press secretaries as an ABC News correspondent, rejected the comparison to Munro.

"I like Tucker (let all flowers bloom) but I really resent his trying to tie his reporter's actions to mine," Donaldson wrote in an email to The Huffington Post. "He knows better."

In the email, Donaldson continued:

Never once did I interrupt a president in any way while he was making a formal statement, a speech, honoring awardees or in any other way holding the floor. Yes, almost always when he was finished in the Rose Garden or in the Briefing Room or at a photo opportunity with other world leaders I tried to question him (only rarely was it a shout on the rope line, more often a more normal tone of voice) and other reporters of course did the same thing along with me.

What this man did yesterday is something new, to me wrong and unusual. I think it is probably the result of the growing incivility of the times, the competition among reporters and news organizations to be noticed not only for the work product but for the theatrics of the gathering...and there is one more factor, let's face it: Many on the political right believe this president ought not to be there – they oppose him not for his polices and political view but for who he is, an African American! These people and perhaps even certain news organizations (certainly the right wing talkers like Limbaugh) encourage disrespect for this president. That is both regrettable and adds, in this case, to the general dislike of the press on the part of the general public.

For Tucker Carlson to say that he would if he can give this man a raise for this rude attempt to interrupt the president is reflective of what I've said above and, to me, lowers my opinion of Tucker.

Numerous political journalists quickly criticized Munro for his outburst during Obama's prepared remarks, including on Fox News, where Carlson is a contributor. Fox News host Chris Wallace said the interruption was "outrageous" and different than the way Donaldson did his job in the 1980s.

"I covered Ronald Reagan for six years with Sam Donaldson," Wallace said. "We used to scream our lungs out asking questions, but we always waited until the president, any president, had finished speaking. The idea that you would interrupt the president in the middle of prepared remarks and shout a question, I don't think the guy should be allowed back in the White House on a press pass, and my guess is he wont be."

Munro, who serves as the Daily Caller's White House correspondent, said in a statement that he "timed the question believing the president was closing his remarks, because naturally I have no intention of interrupting the President of the United States."

[ice grillin you]

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