Lockout Thread

[Diomedes]

I turned all that crap off a long time ago.  Pages load a lot faster without it, and none of it has any bearing whatsoever on our "discussions."

[hbionic]

You're all missing out on all the fun.

[BigEd76]

Looks like they may have reached an agreement on the rookie wage scale

4-yr deals then UFA for all 1st-rd picks (no more 6-yr deals for #1-16 and 5-yr deals for #17-32)
3-yr deals then RFA for everyone else (no more 4-yr and 5-yr deals)

plus limits on signing bonuses for everyone

[General_Failure]

Joe Banner is in a frothy rage over the year limits.

[Feva]

So... Banner, Inc. will be extending their scrubs after 8 games now??

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

So... Banner, Inc. will be extending their scrubs after 8 hours now??

Probably. Anything to get around the rules.

[ice grillin you]

remember when everyone use to think banner was a cap genius...god that used to piss me off

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

Well, he actually is. The Eagles did a lot of crazy shtein to consistently have one of the highest payrolls and one of the most comfortable cap situations at the same time.


As for these negotiations in general, two things could happen which would make a deal very easy. Of course, neither of the two are likely to happen at all:
1. The owners/Goodell realize that the fans really do not want an 18-game season and love the season the way it is currently structured. Season ticket holders may prefer an extra real home game to an extra preseason game, but owners would just increase ticket prices accordingly anyway, so it's a wash.
2. The players realize that the last deal had a lot of financial concessions to keep the game alive for the short term but that more money has to go the owners' way in this deal for it to ever get done.

But in the mean time, don't let reality get in the way of some "negotiations," you fargers.

[ice grillin you]

he does nothing nobody else didnt/couldnt do...to think that he was smarter than anyone else regarding the cap is such a swirly lolipop thing it was ridiculous...the only difference btwn him now and then is that people hate him now so they arent being blinded homers like they were ten years ago...when is the last time you heard cap genius and banner...2002?

[SunMo]

that's because everybody copied his shtein.  so he wasn't the only one doing it anymore.

shtein with giving huge unattainable bonuses that pushed the next years cap was something nobody else realized you could do until he did it.

i hate the dude with a burning passion, but i'm pretty sure his rep for being a cap guru is deserved.

[SD]

that's because everybody copied his shtein.  so he wasn't the only one doing it anymore.

shtein with giving huge unattainable bonuses that pushed the next years cap was something nobody else realized you could do until he did it.

i hate the dude with a burning passion, but i'm pretty sure his rep for being a cap guru is deserved.

I dislike Banner as well but you're right in that he was the first one to exploit the loophole in the cap that other teams emulated. Sure he's a nerdy Orodonker CPA who shouldn't be team president but he deserves credit where it's due.

[SD]

Speaking of Banner:
http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/eagles/20110310_Sources__Eagles__Banner_involved_in_developing_rookie_wage-scale_plan.html

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

He knows the Eagles are trading Kolb for a top 10 pick, so that makes sense.

[ice grillin you]

that's because everybody copied his shtein.  so he wasn't the only one doing it anymore.

shtein with giving huge unattainable bonuses that pushed the next years cap was something nobody else realized you could do until he did it.

i hate the dude with a burning passion, but i'm pretty sure his rep for being a cap guru is deserved.

even if he was the first...any cpa in the country could have figured out to do that...its not like he was john nash coming up with formulas that would change the worlds economy

im sure there are tons of cap guys who came up with other strategies first that have been used by others...but they arent geniuses they are just doing their job...dan snyder figured out a way to sign any player he wanted no matter how far over the cap he was....omg hes a genius!

i have no doubt banner is good at his job...hes just not the genius that he has portrayed himself as...hes probably better than some  gm's who try and double as cap guys but hes no different than any other capologist in the league

[PhillyPhreak54]

He was at the forefront of it, igy. Like Mo mentioned - he led, they followed