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Started by PhillyPhreak54, August 20, 2009, 11:13:00 PM

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Quote from: FastFreddie on December 03, 2010, 03:47:17 PM
Brandon Graham has a high motor.

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My D wish list is:
Another good cornerback. I like Patterson but not as a starter, Hanson post performance enhancers sucks, Lindley is too young to depend on. Hate to say it but they should have kept Sheldon until the end of this season. I hope they sign a vet CB in the offseason - someone who can step right in - then draft a CB in the midrounds

SAM LB- Foiku is a backup/special teams player in this league. No one on this team can cover a tight end for shtein. The hole at SAM is glaring. They need depth at LB in general as well.

Strong Safety - I can't stand Mikell, he sucks at coverage and can't tackle worth a damn. As a SS you have to excel at one or the other.

Defensive End- I haven't given up on Graham - although I didn't buy into the preseason hype to begin with - but they need a big rangy DE who can rush the passer and is a menace. Really they just need 'that player' whether it's a D-lineman or LB (most likely it'll be a DE). Cole is that guy on occassion but they need someone that can do it when he's not.

reese125

as crazy as it sounds this defensive front needs Juqua Parker asap. Hes your motor and causes the qb to release the ball muck quicker--not to mention attributes to Coles pressure as well.

you add him in with asante and there is your 3rd down convergence rate

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Quote from: SunMo on December 03, 2010, 04:44:37 PM
btw, how much have these last two games changed the entire fanbase's tune on Assante Samuel?  i guess people aren't so eager to get rid of him now because he can't tackle when they see what slop we'd be left with

Not me. All the nitwits whining about Asante not tackling are clueless. He's always said it himself, he's not paid to tackle. Too many idiots don't understand how much more important a good cover corner is to have then one that can "light someone up".

reese125

thats pretty extreme. I dont think anyone wants him to light anybody up--just make the routine tackle.

and lets not pretend he's deion sanders out there and is lights out. yes he makes a huge difference, but you are paid to tackle...and tackle well because when you are one-on-one with a wr you better be damn sure you make the tackle or you risk a huge gain. hes missed plenty and has done some stupid shtein out there.

but I'd take him all day every day because the turnovers he creates are worth every penny and changes games.

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Nate Allen and Mikell are paid to tackle.
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Quote from: reese125 on December 03, 2010, 11:25:17 PM
thats pretty extreme. I dont think anyone wants him to light anybody up--just make the routine tackle.

and lets not pretend he's deion sanders out there and is lights out. yes he makes a huge difference, but you are paid to tackle...and tackle well because when you are one-on-one with a wr you better be damn sure you make the tackle or you risk a huge gain. hes missed plenty and has done some stupid shtein out there.

but I'd take him all day every day because the turnovers he creates are worth every penny and changes games.

This issue isn't, as far as I am aware, that he doesn't tackle the WR if he makes a catch. What Samuel has always taken heat for is tackling a ball carrier that comes out into the flat, such as a fullback, halfback, or tight end. Also, he's shown he can be hesitant to try to run through/into blockers on screens. With regard to that, I've made my peace with it. Dude weighs, what, 175 on a good day? It's an easy trade to make considering what he gives you in coverage.

Quote from: Don Ho on December 04, 2010, 03:09:29 AM
Nate Allen and Mikell are paid to tackle.

Mikell can farg off. Allen, on the whole, has been pretty impressive for a rookie taking over that position. Obviously, he hasn't had a lot of talent in front of him, and he's held his own. I think next year he'll be really good.
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Nate Allen got straight trucked by Foster Thursday night. He's gotta learn to get lower, but Foster is also a lot bigger than I thought.
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He did get trucked, but Foster was going to score regardless.
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I like Nate Allen, teams don't get big plays on the Eagles because of him, he's good in coverage, and gets in good position to make tackles. The knock on him coming out of college was his tackling...that's certainly carried over to the pros. He does need to get lower and realize this isn't high school ball where he can just drive through everyone.

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Yeah, the Foster play was definitely a rookie mistake. Going up high on Foster with a head of steam will usually net bad results. Also, I am not comparing him at all to Dawk, but really good things do seem to happen when Allen blitzes.
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mussa

Yeah as terrible as our secondary has been, Nate Allen has done pretty well despite the holes. I really did not understand putting all your chips on a guy like Hobbs who seemed to be injury prone his whole career. We def need a veteran CB and I wouldn't mind a first day CB as well. Patterson has stepped it up but I'm not ready to hand him the job yet, but I really like the way he plays corner. He's a great nickel CB at this point.

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lol at people defending nate farging allen to the death and hating on assante

i though the pimp stuff had cf at a new low but this might top it
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