2010 Week Three: Eagles at Jaguars discussion

[SD]

Anyone checked in with the other CF to make sure things are okay?

[MMH]

Maybe he's smoking what the kids left behind?

BTW, Minor's already done.  Go Phils.

[SD]

also forgot to mention Kill Whitey

[JackStraw]

vick and team beat jax, then vick vs skins for best game entertainment value - not kobbsy. farg the wild boar killer, farg the following week and farg next year. Win now -  how many years of this shtein do you have to watch not to believe that?

an remember andy also benched mcnabb in the middle of a game no less...

[reese125]

when it comes to players playing on the field thats going to come from reid..bet on that.

what makes anyone think that banner the money/contracts guy came skipping down to andys office and said, "yo andy..you have to play vick now he is so much better and do it now."

[General_Failure]

vick and team beat jax, then vick vs skins for best game entertainment value - not kobbsy. farg the wild boar killer, farg the following week and farg next year. Win now -  how many years of this shtein do you have to watch not to believe that?

Winning this year isn't going to happen no matter who they have at quarterback.

[Rome]

howie is banner and banner runs the show

though im not sure how relenting of power andy is on decisions like this that have nothing to do with the front office. i can see roseman sending memos and calling meetings but i just dont by andy being a yes man to upstairs on these kinds of calls.

though it is strange that he, for the first time ever, went against his word like 12 hours later. it doesnt make any sense and goes against everything weve come to believe about andy.

100% accurate.

this move is so out of character for the fat man.  just unthinkable even two years ago.

[ice grillin you]

howie is banner and banner runs the show

though im not sure how relenting of power andy is on decisions like this that have nothing to do with the front office. i can see roseman sending memos and calling meetings but i just dont by andy being a yes man to upstairs on these kinds of calls.

though it is strange that he, for the first time ever, went against his word like 12 hours later. it doesnt make any sense and goes against everything weve come to believe about andy.

it was pretty well known that heckert was andys guy...and banner inc. sent him away and replaced him with joes personally groomed right hand henchman in howie

and we know how much andy loved donovan...when he got dealt it was widely rumored that andy was probably against it and was definitely against him going inside the division

when this went down all i could think about were all those stories about howie trying to strong arm all the veteran gm's around the league and make a name for his sorry little self...hes napoleanic in the eaxct same vein as banner and is complexin all over andys ass

[ice grillin you]

longest weekly discussion thread ever

[The BIGSTUD]

I listened to the press conference and Andy said that Kolb sitting the bench behind Vick will actually make him better than if he were playing.

Yeah...

[MMH]

Bigger news than usual.

[PhillyPhreak54]

I highly doubt that Howie had any decision in this. Nor Banner or Lurie.

Maybe Reid was convinced by the staff after film review? Did Marty campaign for Vick? Did Reid get talked out of Kolb by him?

Wild to see him make a decision like this.

First he says that running the ball was good and now this a day later. Bizzarro Andy

[MDS]

but why would andy listen to him

its one thing for roseman to call in commands which i 100% believe but he cant physically make andy bench kolb for vick. he can strong arm mcnabb away, he can prove a point and trade him in the division to show how smart he is.

so what. has andy gone soft? does he fear for his job? one thing i know about football coaches is they are all insane control freaks and i highly doubt andy is letting some pipsqueak weasel tell him who to start on his team. i wont believe it. coaches will go down on their ship but they will be the ones to sink it.

[Drunkmasterflex]

I don't see how you can go back to Kolb, not because of what I think of him, but because of this situation.  Doesn't mean they won't.

going to vick was the hard part....going back to cobb is nothing...cobb is the future after all and vick is a free agent

The only disagreement I have is him coming out and saying Kolb is his starter, unless it was a little gamesmanship on his part.  Though I doubt he is that smart.  

it wasnt gamesmenship....he said cobb was his man...and not just right after the game in some sort of kneejerk reaction...not that andy has EVER had a kneejerk reaction as its just not him...but he also more than a day later was still saying it...then he gets called into the office with howie and vick is suddenly the starter....it couldnt be more clear what happened

But what if Vick keeps playing like this?

[Eagles_Legendz]

I'm with Cole in that I think Vick is here long term if he plays well.