Can We All Finally Agree Donovan Needs To Burn In Hell (even you phreak)

[Sgt PSN]

My 2 cents:

The Eagles seriously reached when they took Kolb.  They traded a 1st round pick that year and selected him with their first pick in the draft.  That alone created a lot of resentment among fans almost immediately.  I know it did with me.

Then the Eagles spend the next 2 years drafting highly talented recievers and runningbacks, thus setting up Kolb for success whenever he eventually takes over as the starter.  The fact that the Eagles never gave McNabb that much talent earlier in his career when the Eagles were legit Super Bowl contenders simply added to the resentment.

Kolb has played 2.5 games in his short career.  He actually did move the ball fairly well in the 2nd half against Baltimore, and even though he threw a pick in the end zone, he did do more against the Ravens than McNabb did.  Not to mention that veteran greats like Manning and Brady struggle against the Ravens defense, so putting in a QB to get his first real NFL action against that defense is asking A LOT imo.

And in the 2 games he started last year, this is what I saw - I saw a young, inexperienced QB sometimes hold the ball too long.  I saw a young, inexperienced QB sometimes lock in on his receiver.  I also saw a young QB who never really seemed uncomfortable in the pocket.  I saw him make some damn good throws.  I saw him hit recievers in stride. 

In short, I saw him do good things and I saw him do some bad things and that's exactly the same thing that is said about every quarterback no matter how good or bad they turn out to be.  Peyton Manning stunk it up sometimes early in his career and sometimes he did great things.  Same goes for guys like Bobby Hoying. 

The bottom line is that Kolb is still an unknown.  There's not enough game tape on him to decide one way or the other.  But what I do know is that I saw Kolb do a lot of good things in his limited game time.  I like his accuracy and I like his poise.  The mistakes he made can be corrected with time and experience.  Will he be good?  Don't know.  What I do know is that Bobby Hoying was annointed as the QB of the Future after 1 good game against Cincinatti and we all know how that turned out.  So keep that in mind for those of you who are declaring Kolb to be a total failure. 

[charlie]

that's closer to 72 cents

[smeags]

this team is not going to win anything in the next two years. they need to overhaul too many positions so do you keep a qb like mcnabb when the guy will be getting plastered and more than likely hurt and never get any value for him or do you try to make a move now stockpile the draft picks and try to retool the whole team ?

i say you make a move now, regardless of whether you like mcnabb or not makes no difference, we are not going to win anything in the next couple of years and you also know that nothing will change with him at qb and butterbean running the team.

[ice grillin you]

this team is not going to win anything in the next two years. they need to overhaul too many positions so do you keep a qb like mcnabb when the guy will be getting plastered and more than likely hurt and never get any value for him or do you try to make a move now stockpile the draft picks and try to retool the whole team ?

i say you make a move now, regardless of whether you like mcnabb or not makes no difference, we are not going to win anything in the next couple of years and you also know that nothing will change with him at qb and butterbean running the team.

mcnabb wins most of his non big games and since the eagles arent going to be in any big games over the next couple years i say keep the old guy and go 8-8 with no future in site

sounds like a plan

[smeags]

yay status quo !

[QB Eagles]

I don't remember McNabb puking during the Super Bowl, but I do remember him "casually walking up to the line during a two-minute drill as though he were approaching the counter of an Arby's", as Simmons put it.

[Sgt PSN]

I don't remember McNabb puking during the Super Bowl

really? 

[smeags]

the hits he took from bruschi and seymour could make anyone look like that.

who cares though. it's time to move on.

[QB Eagles]

I remember the defeated this-is-making-me-sick look that McNabb gets most of the time when he is in a big game, but not actual puking. I do remember him puking in other games.

[NC_Eagle]

this team is not going to win anything in the next two years. they need to overhaul too many positions so do you keep a qb like mcnabb when the guy will be getting plastered and more than likely hurt and never get any value for him or do you try to make a move now stockpile the draft picks and try to retool the whole team ?

i say you make a move now, regardless of whether you like mcnabb or not makes no difference, we are not going to win anything in the next couple of years and you also know that nothing will change with him at qb and butterbean running the team.

mcnabb wins most of his non big games and since the eagles arent going to be in any big games over the next couple years i say keep the old guy and go 8-8 with no future in site

sounds like a plan

When did Andy Reid take over your account?

[MDS]

wait i thought pg was on the get 5 out of down bus. but she got off that and got and back the phreak express? come on girl.

[PhillyGirl]

No, I want him gone...but the dogpiling is so farging ridiculous.

its like you all forget how zesty it was before he got here and what he actually DID. You're all minimizing his accomplishments and its farging retarded.

[Sgt PSN]

matt mosley

http://espn.go.com/blog/nfceast/post/_/id/12426/the-big-question-is-kolb-ready

Everyone I talk to in the Eagles' organization suggests that former University of Houston star Kevin Kolb is ready for prime time. The Eagles former general manager Tom Heckert, who had a big say in drafting Kolb in the second round of the '07 draft, told me last week he thinks Kolb is absolutely ready to succeed at this level. That's why he thinks it would be nearly impossible for a team to land Kolb in a trade.

Kolb is already popular with his teammates. You may have noticed there hasn't been a huge outcry from the locker room to keep McNabb. I know that fullback Leonard Weaver recently voiced his support during a radio interview, but that's about it. There's a sense in the organization it's time for young stars such as DeSean Jackson, Jeremy Maclin, LeSean McCoy and Brent Celek to start playing with the quarterback who's expected to hang around for the next six or seven seasons.

From the scouts I talk to across the league, Kolb's actually better suited for the West Coast offense than McNabb. He's been very accurate in the preseason and in his two regular-season starts. One NFC East scout told me Monday he thought a second-round pick was a little "rich" for Kolb in '07. The thought at that time was that Kolb may have been a "system" quarterback under coach Art Briles at Houston and his huge passing numbers wouldn't translate to the NFL game. But after a year of work in Reid's system, he convinced the coach he was indeed the real deal.

Kolb doesn't have McNabb's strength or mobility, but he does appear to have a more accurate arm. In an offense that's built on timing and intermediate routes, that's no small thing. Kolb's also been praised for an internal clock that allows him to get the ball away quickly. There are actually people in the organization who think Kolb gives the Eagles a better chance to win immediately.

I have too much respect for McNabb to agree with that statement, but I do think Kolb will help the Eagles win a lot of games in the coming years. His coaches and teammates love how calm he is in the huddle. The Stephenville, Texas, native rarely gets rattled and that's a good trait to have if you're going to play in Philly.

I think Kolb's ready to take over this team.

[smeags]

well if mosley feels this way it must mean one thing.


lombardi celebration in dallas !

[Sgt PSN]

actually, mosley said that he doesn't feel that kolb gives them the best shot at winning right now.