Can We All Finally Agree Donovan Needs To Burn In Hell (even you phreak)

[PhillyPhreak54]

Of course we remember the "no WRs! Give him some help! Protect him! Run the ball!" rants. They were (and are) still valid. Which falls on Reid.

But sadly, Donovan has always had a lot of people against him because of his color. I can't remember the amount of people who I've heard say "they need a white QB".

Getting rid of him would be stupid.

[Drunkmasterflex]

He has had 11 years to prove people wrong, he hasn't.  It is time to move on, its not stupid.  He has shown time and again that he comes up small in big situations.  This is coming from someone that has been one of his staunchest supporters. 

[Sgt PSN]

He has had 11 years to prove people wrong, he hasn't.  It is time to move on, its not stupid.  He has shown time and again that he comes up small in big situations.  This is coming from someone that has been one of his staunchest supporters. 

you and me both.  i'll always be a mcnabb fan but i've come to the conclusion that it's just not going to happen with him and the eagles.  if he's back in 2010 or 2011 or beyond, fine.  i'll still root for him and all that but i seriously doubt i'll ever feel good about the birds chances of winning it all with him under center.  of course, the same goes for reid too. 

[PhillyPhreak54]

It's cool, I don't mind being all alone in the 5 corner. I maintain that you do not give up on a proven player who is still in his prime. He will win a SB with the Eagles, provided they keep him around.

[PhillyPhreak54]

Source of Kolb contract story stands by report
Posted by Mike Florio on February 13, 2010 1:46 PM ET
Garry Cobb stirred up a storm of something other than snow on Friday with a report that the Eagles have commenced contract talks with backup quarterback Kevin Kolb.

The team denied the report, and a source with knowledge of the situation confirmed to us that no talks between the Eagles and Kolb are occurring or have occurred.

But Cobb stands by his Kolb report.  "Everybody and their brother is out denying the story but I stand by it," Cobb writes.  "I am not going to get into a back and forth with anybody about the story.  I stand by it now and will continue to stand by it."

It's not a bad strategy, given the reality that the Eagles are likely to talk contract with Kolb at some point.  And then Cobb can claim that he was right all along.

(We've considered applying a similar approach when Terry Bradshaw heads to that Great Football Field and/or Divorce Court in the Sky.  We realize, however, that this would be inappropriate.  For the record, we've yet to make a final decision.)

There's only one potential benefit to doing a deal with Kolb now.  If the Eagles secretly plan to move starter Donovan McNabb, Kolb would move to the top of the depth chart.  So if they could lock up Kolb now, Kolb would have less leverage than he would after McNabb is gone.

Surely, Kolb and his agent, Jeff Nalley, are smart enough to factor that possibility into any contract talks, if contract talks were occurring.  And they aren't.

But they eventually will -- and once they're concluded Cobb will be able to say he was right all along.

[Drunkmasterflex]

There is no way to know who is telling the truth here.  The Eagles aren't going to say anything unless they actually trade McNabb or extend Kolb.  If they really are going to trade McNabb they aren't going to just put it out there, why would they? All that would do is drive down the asking price. 

[ice grillin you]

i dont think it takes a brain surgeon to know that they are obviously talking contract with cobb...i mean duh hes going into the last year of his contract...but nowhere does it say they will come to an agreement with him

just because they are talking deal doesnt mean cobb will accept one.. if it doesnt mean he at minimum is given a fair shot at the starting job and therefore starter money maybe he says farg off

and maybe the deal the eagles are tossing out there is one for low money and high incentives...in other words one that says cobb will be mcnabbs backup for another year or two and then he gets the #1 job with incentives that can cake off the contract


to me gcobb is not saying much here and the whole thing is being blown out of proportion

[rjs246]

My favorite thing about this board is watching IGY try to convince people that he is in touch with Philly on a personal level, in ways that others are not, despite the fact that he doesn't live there. It gets even better when he ridicules others for doing the EXACT same thing. "You don't even live in Philly! You don't know it like I do." It's some sort of bizarre personality tick that he can't seem to control.

That he actually believes it makes it all the more fascinating.

[Munson]

WIP is the pulse of Philly fans. It's a basketball town.

[ice grillin you]

My favorite thing about this board is watching IGY try to convince people that he is in touch with Philly on a personal level, in ways that others are not

other are...just not ones that live in nebraska and have never been to philly

[rjs246]

You are excellent at rationalizing your behavior, but that doesn't make it any less absurd. Frankly, it's pretty hilarious.

[ice grillin you]

im glad i can entertain

[hbionic]

i cant believe people dont remember all the years of the people saying the eagles have no wr's....andys horrible clock management and being pass happy...ricky manning dominating pinky...blaine bishop and levon kirkland vs joe jurevicious...sheldon brown being hurt vs the rams

Gotta correct you on that one IGY Smalls....

Sheldon Brown and Lito Sheppard were the products of the Eagles losing to the Rams the season before.

[Sgt PSN]

It's cool, I don't mind being all alone in the 5 corner. I maintain that you do not give up on a proven player who is still in his prime. He will win a SB with the Eagles, provided they keep him around.

i'm still in his corner.  i want him to do well and i take no pleasure in watching him perform poorly.  all i'm giving up on is the "blind faith" that mcnabb will win this team a super bowl. 

[Sgt PSN]

i cant believe people dont remember all the years of the people saying the eagles have no wr's....andys horrible clock management and being pass happy...ricky manning dominating pinky...blaine bishop and levon kirkland vs joe jurevicious...sheldon brown being hurt vs the rams

Gotta correct you on that one IGY Smalls....

Sheldon Brown and Lito Sheppard were the products of the Eagles losing to the Rams the season before.

yup.  both were drafted in 2002 after losing to the rams in the nfccg in 01.