This Team Will NOT Win Anything... Ever.

[Rome]

he doesnt suck. no one is saying he sucks. hes just a bitch and a choke artist.

The bellyaching about his accuracy (on perfectly catchable balls) says otherwise. So does the lack of respect he gets in this city.

they luv them some donny in houston.

[Sgt PSN]

he doesnt suck. no one is saying he sucks. hes just a bitch and a choke artist.

The bellyaching about his accuracy (on perfectly catchable balls) says otherwise. So does the lack of respect he gets in this city.

i think over the first 4 or 5 years of his career, mcnabb caught a lot of unwarranted crap from the fans.  he was still young and as far as i was concerned, had more room to grow and was going to work on his accuracy and improve it.  i felt that with experience would come savvy and that he would eventually find calmness in big moments and big games.  but over the last 6 years he hasn't improved on anything.  he reached his peek and he's been treading water ever since.  if anything, you could say that because of his age and injuries, he's regressed a little since he's not the runner he used to be. 

sometimes, the loss of superior athletic skills motivates an athlete to refine their game.  see michael jordan.  after his first retirement, he came back and was a little older, a little slower and a little less explosive.  so he developed the sickest fade-away jumper ever seen.  his raw athletic ability faded and he replaced it with knowledge.  he studied more film.  practiced harder.  perfected every possible aspect of the game. 

mcnabb hasn't done that.  i hate to say it because i farging love the guy but it's time to face reality......he's inaccurate, slow, afraid of big games and does absolutely nothing to motivate and inspire his teammates.  could he still get hot and roll the eagles through the playoffs?  sure.  anything's possible.  i just don't see why anyone after 10 years of the same old, same old from him can still find a reason to say "yes he can" and actually believe it.

[General_Failure]

The funniest thing to me, over the last 11 years, is the way McNabb's slumps are handled. When he's off, they stop running the ball. No reason for this has ever been given. I think I have the answer.

There's a clause in McNabb's contract. It states that if he doesn't have 20 completions in a game, he gets to make a snuff film with the wife of any assistant coach on the team.

[Tomahawk]

For the first four years as starter, McNabb could put the team on his shoulders and singlehandedly win games by juking somebody like Mark Carrier out of his shorts.

Now he doesn't even possess those skills and his accuraccy kills him and the team. McNabb is still plenty good enough to win a Super Bowl but not with a coach like Reid. Even though it's hard to say which one of them has learned less about the game over their 11 year career

[MMH]

I hear Jim Zorn's available.  He can never win a SB either, but he'd be cheaper.

[LBIggle]

i don't see how play calling has anything to do with execution.  he calls a screen, it gets rifled into mccoys eyeball.  a moderate pass to maclin.. nope, nice try.  a deep pass to pimp?  not even close.  he sees pressure from a blitz (if he even notices it) and panics instead of taking advantage of an open spot of the field.   hell even snapping the ball in the redzone is a BFD.  add it to the fact he's a mental midget and can't run anymore to offset his lack of sense in the pocket and inaccuracy issues and there you have donovan mcnabb.  he's a chump. 

someone asked if ya really wanted hasselback instead of mcnabb.. and it really wouldn't matter since he's lost just as many superbowls.  you could even argue with maclin and pimp now, you probably want someone back there who can get them the ball more reliably.

[Rome]

i don't know if kolb's the answer but i know mcnabb should be finished in philly if he fails again.  he won't be so our agony will continue.  we probably deserve it, though, so...

[MMH]

You really think calling 8 called runs over the course of a game is good play calling?  Really?  Reid is a farging loser, and he's at least if not more to blame for most of the late season failures this team has endured.  Getting rid of McNabb won't prevent all go routes being called while protecting a lead.

[rjs246]

McNabb is still plenty good enough to win a Super Bowl but not with a coach like Reid. Even though it's hard to say which one of them has learned less about the game over their 11 year career

This is true and made me vomitchucklecry.

[PhillyPhreak54]

Comparing other successful West Coast Offense qbs would make a lot more sense, but ultimately it's neither here nor there.

Young = 64.3% (65.8% if you take out the Tampa Bay years)
Montana = 63.2%
Gannon (Oakland only) = 62.6%
Favre = 62.0%
Hasselbeck = 60.1%

the first 4 speak for themselves, but would anyone really want hasselbeck over mcnabb? 

Angelo Cataldi said he'd take him over McNabb.

[Sgt PSN]

Comparing other successful West Coast Offense qbs would make a lot more sense, but ultimately it's neither here nor there.

Young = 64.3% (65.8% if you take out the Tampa Bay years)
Montana = 63.2%
Gannon (Oakland only) = 62.6%
Favre = 62.0%
Hasselbeck = 60.1%

the first 4 speak for themselves, but would anyone really want hasselbeck over mcnabb? 

Angelo Cataldi said he'd take him over McNabb.

of course he would. 

[The BIGSTUD]

McNabb has really fallen down the pecking order. Schaub has surpassed him as a QB, so has Rodgers. Favre right now is a better QB than McNabb. Flacco might be as well, and has far less receiver weapons than McNabb.

I'd probably rank McNabb 10th in the league right now. Either him or Palmer interchangeable between 10 and 11.

Manning
Brees
Brady-if 100% healthy probably #2, but hasn't been healthy in 2 years
Roethlisberger
Rivers
Rodgers
Favre
Schaub
Flacco
McNabb/Palmer

I was talking about this today with someone who automatically assumed that McNabb was a top 10 QB in the league anymore, and you can make a strong case he isn't. I'd take all of those QBs right now for just one season over McNabb. McNabb has the playoff experience over a lot of them, but at the same time I can't name one thing McNabb does better than any of them right now except maybe read defenses. He certainly doesn't do that better than the top 3 of them at the very least.

Damn, realized I completely forgot about Matt Ryan too.

[ice grillin you]

It was a staggering statement, raw and honest. It was also necessary and long overdue.

The Eagles released Brian Westbrook a week ago today. From a football standpoint, it was the right thing to do. After eight years of impressive service, injuries and age and, sadly, too many concussions made the running back expendable. It was time to move on. No one should fault the organization for showing Westbrook the door, though the way they pushed him through it was typical of a franchise that's largely inept when it comes to P.R. and basic decency.

After saying goodbye to the only employer he's known in his NFL career, Westbrook revealed that he hadn't spoken with team president Joe Banner or owner Jeffrey Lurie. The Eagles issued a statement in which both Lurie and Banner gushed about him - Banner called him a "special person" and marveled at the way Westbrook interacted with Banner's children - but neither, according to Westbrook, bothered to pick up the phone and say "thanks" or "so long."

That the Eagles botched the farewell worse than an Asante Samuel tackle isn't shocking, but what Westbrook said after being cut was most certainly surprising. For years, Westbrook was a loyal company man, content to regurgitate all the proper, preapproved talking points at all the proper, preapproved times. He was sort of the anti-T.O. - doing and saying all the right things. He protected the organization.

Not anymore.

"The thing for them, the Eagles, it's always money. It's always dollar signs," Westbrook said on Dan Patrick's radio show. "If they can find someone to do it a little bit cheaper, they'll go with that guy."

He didn't say it with malice, didn't raise his voice or curse the front office. He just stated it simply, as though it's widely accepted as fact by anyone who knows anything about the way the Birds conduct business. When Patrick followed up and asked which is more important to the Eagles - stuffing more money into their already fat wallet or winning - Westbrook paused and thought hard before answering.

"I've seen them go the money route with so many players," Westbrook said. "I wouldn't know. You'd have to ask someone with the Eagles. With the players, winning is a priority. With the management, I would hope winning is the priority - but I don't know that."

It was a damning indictment of the franchise levied by the last person you'd expect to stand in judgment of the Eagles. It wasn't Terrell Owens questioning the team's true motivation. It wasn't Lito Sheppard or Sheldon Brown or Jeremiah Trotter or Hugh Douglas or any other past or present Eagle with a pattern of speaking his mind and challenging the organization. It was Westbrook, a man who was respected during his time here by the team and outsiders alike.

The Bird Brains out there - the small-minded sycophants who willfully submit to the Eagles brainwashing - will brand Westbrook disloyal and claim he's lashing out at the franchise for cutting him. The independent, on the other hand, will read his remarks and reel from the brutal candor.

The sentiment Westbrook expressed - that the Birds are more enamored with their bloated bank statement than anything else - is something some fans have wondered about and fretted over since Lurie packed his carpetbag and came south from New England. Lurie and Banner have grown the franchise into an enterprise worth more than $1 billion. To be fair, they've also helped assemble a team that's reached five NFC championships and a Super Bowl - no small thing. But while they've spent money over the years - on Jevon Kearse, Donovan McNabb, Samuel, et. al. - they've certainly made a lot, too.

And so you wonder: if they had spent a little more and made a little less, might the Eagles have hosted a parade by now? Given what Westbrook said, it's a legitimate question.

There's another concern here: How many other Eagles - gone and forgotten or still employed and wearing midnight green - feel the same way as Westbrook? How many doubt whether the Birds are committed to winning it all instead of winning just enough to make obscene money? Maybe the players don't need to fully believe in the front office and its leadership in order for a team to win the Super Bowl, but it can't hurt.

Westbrook leaves Philadelphia with impressive numbers. He's first in franchise history in yards from scrimmage, second in rushing, third in receptions and touchdowns. But of all the amazing things he did while he was in town, he might have saved his most impressive feat for last. He stood up and spoke out. He said what a lot of people in Philly were thinking, and he did it in a way the Eagles can't possibly ignore or discredit.

For that, he deserves to be cheered one final time.

[Rome]

who wrote that?

[ice grillin you]

gonzo