Eagles 2009 Draft Thread

[Kenzinger]

its just a built in excuse for the teams that didnt get him

teams dont spends weeks entertaining offers for the fun of it especially leading up to the draft....they have more important things to do

now the price of draft picks and his contract maybe have been to steep for anyone to pay but they definitely were shopping him

not every player in every sport thats put on the market gets moved

I don't for a second believe the Cardinals were really going to deal Boldin for a 2nd rounder. I have no doubt they could have landed him with the 1.21, so I'm guessing the Eagles thought Maclin is a better investment since he's younger, can contribute immediately on special teams, and isn't a grousing malcontent who wants $10M/year. No other team in football thought Boldin was worth whatever the Cards wanted for him.

I'm not really sure I'd deal the 1.21 for Edwards and Ocho Cinco has never officially been on the market.

[Eagaholic]

its just a built in excuse for the teams that didnt get him

teams dont spends weeks entertaining offers for the fun of it especially leading up to the draft....they have more important things to do

now the price of draft picks and his contract maybe have been to steep for anyone to pay but they definitely were shopping him

not every player in every sport thats put on the market gets moved

It's more like just a built in excuse to placate Boldin that in the end was too transparent.

Titans coach Jeff Fisher says he was told the Cardinals aren't interested in moving Anquan Boldin.
"We left several messages with them (Friday) night but they never returned our calls," said Fisher. "We didn't get in touch with them until before the draft (Saturday), and they said that they weren't interested in moving him." At this point, the most likely scenario is Boldin staying in Arizona.

Coach Ken Whisenhunt said the team's goal was never to trade Anquan Boldin but to "make sure a blockbuster wasn't available."
"We were not ever taking a proactive move with respect to a trade," GM Rod Graves said, "but we were certainly willing to listen, and in just about all cases we didn't get a response back." The Cardinals have changed direction and now seemed focused on keeping Boldin.

- Rotoworld

BTW some teams spend an awful lot of time playing games and putting up smoke screens leading up to the draft, it's all part of the game

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

Every time I see 1.21, I think of Dr. Emmitt Brown.

[Magical_Retard]

They may have been jerking teams around but why put out a "we have lowered our asking price to a 2nd" statement?

And even then if you have a WR on your team who wants to be paid as much, if not more, as your other superstar WR, is unhappy, and wishes to be traded...why in the would would you not trade him for a 1st round draft pick and say pick up a Macklin yourself? I mean the Cards do no have a immediate need at WR so they can afford to take a rookie and have him learn from Fitz.

Eagles have their young guy in Desean. Adding Boldin, IMO, would have made this a top 3 offense in the league and at the very least solved the redzone problems.

In an offseason where Winslow, Gonzo, Boldin, and Edwards were all available and the Eagles had 2 first round draft picks, 10 + picks in total, and nearly 40 million under the cap they came away with a rookie WR and two tackles who potentially could be better but are not givens considering injuries and how they played the past season. Potentially, if all things work out and rookies pan out immediately, this could be the best draft under Reid since his first, but its not exactly comforting for a team that was one game away from the Superbowl.

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

They may have been jerking teams around but why put out a "we have lowered our asking price to a 2nd" statement?

They didn't.

[Kenzinger]

They may have been jerking teams around but why put out a "we have lowered our asking price to a 2nd" statement?

The Cardinals never said Boldin was on the block for a 2nd rounder. That report came from Sal Pal through two anonymous sources and the Cards GM denied it.

[Magical_Retard]

its just a built in excuse for the teams that didnt get him

teams dont spends weeks entertaining offers for the fun of it especially leading up to the draft....they have more important things to do

now the price of draft picks and his contract maybe have been to steep for anyone to pay but they definitely were shopping him

not every player in every sport thats put on the market gets moved

I don't for a second believe the Cardinals were really going to deal Boldin for a 2nd rounder. I have no doubt they could have landed him with the 1.21, so I'm guessing the Eagles thought Maclin is a better investment since he's younger, can contribute immediately on special teams, and isn't a grousing malcontent who wants $10M/year. No other team in football thought Boldin was worth whatever the Cards wanted for him.

I'm not really sure I'd deal the 1.21 for Edwards and Ocho Cinco has never officially been on the market.

True but not every team has the same needs. The Eagles are a special case in that if they just ran the ball enough, I think they have enough talent at WR to win it all. Since they (Reid) prefers to pass all the time its pretty crucial to have that WR who can demand double teams, make the tough catches, go across in the middle, still has enough in him to turn a 5 yd catch into a 70 yd TD, and most importanly improve the terrible redzone offense.

Its not about what Boldin is worth to other teams, its about how important is he to the Eagles. Had they picked up a TE, I would never advocate dealing the #21 for Boldin. The way the team is set up right now would have been ideal 5-6 seasons ago. Now its too late to get young all over again and hope it pans out.

Besides we are arguing proven player vs rookie with potential.

[Kenzinger]

its just a built in excuse for the teams that didnt get him

teams dont spends weeks entertaining offers for the fun of it especially leading up to the draft....they have more important things to do

now the price of draft picks and his contract maybe have been to steep for anyone to pay but they definitely were shopping him

not every player in every sport thats put on the market gets moved

I don't for a second believe the Cardinals were really going to deal Boldin for a 2nd rounder. I have no doubt they could have landed him with the 1.21, so I'm guessing the Eagles thought Maclin is a better investment since he's younger, can contribute immediately on special teams, and isn't a grousing malcontent who wants $10M/year. No other team in football thought Boldin was worth whatever the Cards wanted for him.

I'm not really sure I'd deal the 1.21 for Edwards and Ocho Cinco has never officially been on the market.

True but not every team has the same needs. The Eagles are a special case in that if they just ran the ball enough, I think they have enough talent at WR to win it all. Since they (Reid) prefers to pass all the time its pretty crucial to have that WR who can demand double teams, make the tough catches, go across in the middle, still has enough in him to turn a 5 yd catch into a 70 yd TD, and most importanly improve the terrible redzone offense.

Its not about what Boldin is worth to other teams, its about how important is he to the Eagles. Had they picked up a TE, I would never advocate dealing the #21 for Boldin. The way the team is set up right now would have been ideal 5-6 seasons ago. Now its too late to get young all over again and hope it pans out.

Besides we are arguing proven player vs rookie with potential.

What's the point? They thought Maclin was a better value and Boldin is not an Eagle - end of story.

The FO is more often right than wrong. If it were up to the fans, we'd have five Pro Bowl wideouts with no offensive line, Kevin Kolb throwing the ball, and Hugh - Trot - Vincent - Taylor still on defense. They flat out know more than you. How many times do they need to prove it?

[ice grillin you]

its just a built in excuse for the teams that didnt get him

teams dont spends weeks entertaining offers for the fun of it especially leading up to the draft....they have more important things to do

now the price of draft picks and his contract maybe have been to steep for anyone to pay but they definitely were shopping him

not every player in every sport thats put on the market gets moved

It's more like just a built in excuse to placate Boldin that in the end was too transparent.

Titans coach Jeff Fisher says he was told the Cardinals aren't interested in moving Anquan Boldin.
"We left several messages with them (Friday) night but they never returned our calls," said Fisher. "We didn't get in touch with them until before the draft (Saturday), and they said that they weren't interested in moving him." At this point, the most likely scenario is Boldin staying in Arizona.

Coach Ken Whisenhunt said the team's goal was never to trade Anquan Boldin but to "make sure a blockbuster wasn't available."
"We were not ever taking a proactive move with respect to a trade," GM Rod Graves said, "but we were certainly willing to listen, and in just about all cases we didn't get a response back." The Cardinals have changed direction and now seemed focused on keeping Boldin.

- Rotoworld

BTW some teams spend an awful lot of time playing games and putting up smoke screens leading up to the draft, it's all part of the game

fishers flat out wrong...this isnt a case of john clayton reporting that boldin was available...the cardinals said openly in the media that they were taking offers

clearly their price and the price of boldins contract demands were too high for anyone to offer up enough

and how is it a smokescreen by offering to trade boldin....its not like they were telling people they were trading up to four to take sanchez or some draft bullshtein



i dont even care that they didnt get boldin...they have had a very good offseason....my only point is and how this boldin stuff even started is because people were trying to say they have gone pedal to the metal all out for a superbowl next year and you cant say that

[Seabiscuit36]

Eskin said they wouldnt go higher than a third rounder, mainly because if he's asking for 9+million for a year, they arent in a position to get a high return.  Whatever, its not gonna happen, Maclin tore it up for me on NCAA 09, and xbox is greater than life

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

i dont even care that they didnt get boldin...they have had a very good offseason

Whoa... what?  Puppy dogs, fire trucks, and ice cream?

[ice grillin you]

ive only said that 30 times in the last month....but you dont read

they have done a wonderful job replacing positions of incredible importance that are not easy to fill

what i also say is that there is no guarantee that those players they brought in are going to be better than the guys who where there last year (with the exception of fullback) and because of that you cannot say they have gone all out to win a superbowl...unlike say in 2004

[Sgt PSN]

ive only said that 30 times in the last month....but you dont read

they have done a wonderful job replacing positions of incredible importance that are not easy to fill

what i also say is that there is no guarantee that those players they brought in are going to be better than the guys who where there last year (with the exception of fullback) and because of that you cannot say they have gone all out to win a superbowl...unlike say in 2004

i keep agreeing with igy on this issue. 

git yo shtgnz rdy cuz da tupocolypz iz cummin n it bringin da zombeez wit it

[Seabiscuit36]

ha... Tupac is alivz

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

Stealing Ed's thunder... The Eagles have assigned numbers to the new players.

Maclin is wearing #18 and not #19, so I will not be acquiring his jersey.  Macho Harris will be wearing #35 and not #31, so Die-Hard's jersey is still an Al Harris joint.  Ellis Hobbs gets #37 (in a row?).  Ingram gets a great TE # in 88.  Shady will rock #29.