Jeremy Maclin - Philadelphia Eagle

[Seabiscuit36]

what did he say or do?

or are you just talking about the mangini garbage

just interviews, him blowing off some interviews, apparently his answers were pretty crappy.  Who knows, but he got pegged as a Diva already, and teams and the news have it out for Diva WR's now. Freddie Mitchell started it all

[ice grillin you]

i see much a do bout nothing....but i suppose we will find out on sundays

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

I'm pretty sure Heyward-Bey was #1 on only one draft board.  If Maclin was #1 on 18 boards, that leaves 11 for Crabtree.

Even so, it's hard to complain when the Eagles got a guy who is arguably the best WR in the class.  I was pissed about them not getting Pettigrew, but Ingram in the 5th made me feel a little bit better about that.

Sunshine and rainbows, kids!

[Seabiscuit36]

I'd still take Crabtree over Maclin every day, now i guess we'll see how that goes in a few years

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

I would too, but more because of the type of receiver he is.  Maclin seems to be more of a Curtis/Jackson receiver.  Crabtree seems to be more of a T.O./Boldin guy, which is what I thought would be an ideal add to the offense.

Crabtree wasn't on the board, though, and I don't fault the Eagles for not moving up to get him.  I'll take Maclin and McCoy over just Crabtree.

[General_Failure]

what did he say or do?

or are you just talking about the mangini garbage

just interviews, him blowing off some interviews, apparently his answers were pretty crappy.  Who knows, but he got pegged as a Diva already, and teams and the news have it out for Diva WR's now. Freddie Mitchell started it all

Sounds to me like he did a little work to make sure he went to a team he could stand playing for.

[Feva]

I would too, but more because of the type of receiver he is.  Maclin seems to be more of a Curtis/Jackson receiver.  Crabtree seems to be more of a T.O./Boldin guy, which is what I thought would be an ideal add to the offense.

Crabtree wasn't on the board, though, and I don't fault the Eagles for not moving up to get him.  I'll take Maclin and McCoy over just Crabtree.

Y'know... not jumping on FF, because it's not even the point he was making, but this got me thinking. I've seen/read a lot of people characterize Mack as a "small, speedy" type WR, or "another DeSean Jackson" and not the "big, strong" type WR such as say, Hakeem Nicks or Crabtree.  But when you look at size & weights, there's not that much difference.

Mack - 6'0", 198
Nicks - 6,1", 212
Crabtree - 6'1", 215

Yeah, he's a little smaller... but 15 lbs on a 6 foot frame??? Is that really what makes the difference?  Mack is closer to these guys than DeSean's 5'10", 175.


And I'll admit to straight copy & pasting this from the EMB when someone criticized Mack's size:

Jerry Rice
Torry Holt
Reggie Wayne
Marvin Harrison
Isaac Bruce

All 6'0 and betwen 180-200 lbs.

Maclin is 6'0 198 lbs.

Now I'm not comparing and saying Mack will turn out to be as good as any of these guys, but I think he's getting a bad rap on the size thing.

[BigEd76]

Maclin was just on WIP and called Rhea "ma'am".  Bust...

[ice grillin you]

its not so much the on paper weights and heights as it is the kind of game that you rely on

macks success depends on speed and quickness thus he cant afford to put on extra muscle...crabtree and nicks defintely can as could desean (because hes so light)

also frame is important...i dont know the actual measurments but just from watching them play i would guess crabtree and nicks have longer arms than mack so going up and getting balls is a big part of their repertoire...also some frames can accept more weight without consequences where as other cant

i dont care about the listed numbers mack as a football player both in body and game is way closer to desean than to nicks or crabtree...and this will be comes more evident as they progress in their careers and nick crabtree and hopefully desean get a little bigger and mack doesnt...i dont know if mack could play in the league at 215

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

I think it's more the style he plays than the actual size he is.  I don't see Maclin doing well at taking the hits in the middle of the field and banging around in there.  But Gary Sheffield used to be a skinny shortstop, so who knows?

[reese125]

I would too, but more because of the type of receiver he is.  Maclin seems to be more of a Curtis/Jackson receiver.  Crabtree seems to be more of a T.O./Boldin guy, which is what I thought would be an ideal add to the offense.

Crabtree wasn't on the board, though, and I don't fault the Eagles for not moving up to get him.  I'll take Maclin and McCoy over just Crabtree.

Y'know... not jumping on FF, because it's not even the point he was making, but this got me thinking. I've seen/read a lot of people characterize Mack as a "small, speedy" type WR, or "another DeSean Jackson" and not the "big, strong" type WR such as say, Hakeem Nicks or Crabtree.  But when you look at size & weights, there's not that much difference.

Mack - 6'0", 198
Nicks - 6,1", 212
Crabtree - 6'1", 215

Yeah, he's a little smaller... but 15 lbs on a 6 foot frame??? Is that really what makes the difference?  Mack is closer to these guys than DeSean's 5'10", 175.


And I'll admit to straight copy & pasting this from the EMB when someone criticized Mack's size:

Jerry Rice
Torry Holt
Reggie Wayne
Marvin Harrison
Isaac Bruce

All 6'0 and betwen 180-200 lbs.

Maclin is 6'0 198 lbs.

Now I'm not comparing and saying Mack will turn out to be as good as any of these guys, but I think he's getting a bad rap on the size thing.

couldnt agree more about the size and weight as I think he will prove to me much more physical than people are saying...especially in the red zone underneath. That extra 15lbs could very well be the difference in him staying on his feet after first contact compared to Curtis and Jackson

not to mention from a catching standpoint all the scouts are saying Maclins hands are off the meat hook ...and we know what Curtis' hands are.

[rjs246]

Curtis catches balls with his face.

[reese125]

and he still drops them

[Feva]

its not so much the on paper weights and heights as it is the kind of game that you rely on

macks success depends on speed and quickness thus he cant afford to put on extra muscle...crabtree and nicks defintely can as could desean (because hes so light)

also frame is important...i dont know the actual measurments but just from watching them play i would guess crabtree and nicks have longer arms than mack so going up and getting balls is a big part of their repertoire...also some frames can accept more weight without consequences where as other cant

i dont care about the listed numbers mack as a football player both in body and game is way closer to desean than to nicks or crabtree...and this will be comes more evident as they progress in their careers and nick crabtree and hopefully desean get a little bigger and mack doesnt...i dont know if mack could play in the league at 215

True... and valid points.  It's just that I think he plays a little more physical than I think people give him credit for.

I'm not going to sit up here and say "I've watched EVERY Missouri game last year" or nothing, but I've seen more than a few and I've seen him go and make a number of catches in traffic and I've seen him get YAC after 1st contact, breaking tackles.  Not saying that's his style, but he's never seemed to shy away from contact from what I've seen.

[ice grillin you]

hes more physical than pimp no doubt...hes just thicker...but hes way closer to pimp than to nicks or crabtree

pimp actually surprised me with the hits he was willing to take last year...he went over the middle with no fear i thought and while he certainly wasnt running into people after the catch i expected much more running out of bounds and ducking and diving than he showed