Brian Dawkins, ex-Eagle

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ice grillin you

Quote from: jihadist monk on March 01, 2009, 10:19:04 PM
Quote from: BigEd76 on March 01, 2009, 09:54:23 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 01, 2009, 09:14:00 PMdawk cant play anymore? - no

Obviously the Eagles disagree with that one.  They pay for what someone can provide in the future, not what they did in the past.  Always have, always will.  Even if they didn't sign Andrews, or they planned to use him somewhere other than RG, there was almost no shot that Runyan would have been back, and I was surprised when they re-signed him 3 years ago because I thought he was going downhill back then.  The Eagles made an offer, Dawk felt insulted and he found someone to give him double.  Why isn't he getting any blame here?  Instead of simply retiring, staying an Eagle forever and walking off as an Eagle fan hero, he took the money elsewhere, which he's entitled to do.  Yeah, I'd feel 10000% better if the Eagles had a shot at drafting Taylor Mays next month, but they apparently feel that a guy 12 years younger will provide better coverage and more speed than Dawk.  And there's still a possibility of adding a FA or drafting William Moore, Rashad Johnson or Louis Delmas.  Again, I was a huge fan of Dawk and always will be and I hate that he's gone, but I root for the Eagles.  If I'm an a-hole because of that, oh well....


Im completely dumbfounded.  I must have seen about 100,000 posts from you and this post has as many words as the rest put together. 

i love easy but he didnt really write that...he basically plagerized bob fords article and mixed in some spadaro talking points...which is understandable as he is a emb spadaro crony...and easy if you rooted for the eagles you would be on dawks side here not the FO since dawk has more eagle in his left pinky than a combination of spadaro reid banner and lurie ever will...there are times the FO is to be defended for their positions on veterans and usually youd be correct...this however is not one of them...not even close...btw still waiting for one single legit reason why dawk was not resigned...thread is 18 pages strong and one hasnt been posted
i can take a phrase thats rarely heard...flip it....now its a daily word

igy gettin it done like warrick

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MDS

jesus even you are killing easy

look the guy is maybe the most important human being to the message board world and this is how he is treated? have some farging respect you pack of funholes.
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General_Failure

Quote from: ice grillin you on March 01, 2009, 11:09:34 PM
btw still waiting for one single legit reason why dawk was not resigned...thread is 18 pages strong and one hasnt been posted

Funny, I'm still waiting for a legitimate reason for him to have been resigned.

The man. The myth. The legend.

bowzer

IGY, you haven't heard a reason cause there isn't one.  He was still making plays and was the best FS on our roster.  Bottom line is the FO is cheap cheap cheap.

General_Failure

Quote from: bowzer on March 01, 2009, 11:33:57 PM
He was still making plays and was the best FS on our roster.

I'm pretty sure I could count the plays Dawkins made last year on the hand of a shop teacher.

The man. The myth. The legend.

bowzer

Quote from: General_Failure on March 01, 2009, 11:34:49 PM
Quote from: bowzer on March 01, 2009, 11:33:57 PM
He was still making plays and was the best FS on our roster.

I'm pretty sure I could count the plays Dawkins made last year on the hand of a shop teacher.

Which is more than the plays that Joselio Hanson made?

bowzer

Howard said if you overpay for Dawkins for sentimental reasons, than you have to do it for other guys...

What other guys are in the same situation was Dawk... lol FAIL

General_Failure

Quote from: bowzer on March 01, 2009, 11:38:13 PM
Quote from: General_Failure on March 01, 2009, 11:34:49 PM
Quote from: bowzer on March 01, 2009, 11:33:57 PM
He was still making plays and was the best FS on our roster.

I'm pretty sure I could count the plays Dawkins made last year on the hand of a shop teacher.

Which is more than the plays that Joselio Hanson made?


Joselio has that pesky "potential" thing still. Dawkins has a used car lot to run someday soon.

The man. The myth. The legend.

bowzer

Quote from: General_Failure on March 01, 2009, 11:40:09 PM
Quote from: bowzer on March 01, 2009, 11:38:13 PM
Quote from: General_Failure on March 01, 2009, 11:34:49 PM
Quote from: bowzer on March 01, 2009, 11:33:57 PM
He was still making plays and was the best FS on our roster.

I'm pretty sure I could count the plays Dawkins made last year on the hand of a shop teacher.

Which is more than the plays that Joselio Hanson made?


Joselio has that pesky "potential" thing still. Dawkins has a used car lot to run someday soon.

The potential to be a decent #3 cornerback?   

The gold standard strikes again. 

General_Failure

The more people complain that Dawkins was offered a crap deal, the more I want to say farg Dawkins. I like the guy, I really do, but Jesus Christ he's as useful right now as the condom in Munson's wallet.

The man. The myth. The legend.

ice grillin you

Quote from: bowzer on March 01, 2009, 11:33:57 PM
IGY, you haven't heard a reason cause there isn't one.  He was still making plays and was the best FS on our roster.  Bottom line is the FO is cheap cheap cheap.

we all know there isnt one...so the real question is why are so many people on this board defending the FO...people like easy and FF can be explained but i dont understand the rest of them
i can take a phrase thats rarely heard...flip it....now its a daily word

igy gettin it done like warrick

im the board pharmacist....always one step above yous

ice grillin you

Quote from: General_Failure on March 01, 2009, 11:34:49 PM
Quote from: bowzer on March 01, 2009, 11:33:57 PM
He was still making plays and was the best FS on our roster.

I'm pretty sure I could count the plays Dawkins made last year on the hand of a shop teacher.

same amount of sacks as gocong bradley and jordan combined...more forced fumbles than bradley cole parker jordan mikell combined...third on the team in tackles...im not saying he was the dawk of 2002 but the revisionist history going on is ridiculous (but expected)
i can take a phrase thats rarely heard...flip it....now its a daily word

igy gettin it done like warrick

im the board pharmacist....always one step above yous

General_Failure

Actually, I complained about him the entire season. Of course, I complained about the rest of the defense being sub-par as well. But yeah, totally revisionist of me to continue saying he should have retired.

The man. The myth. The legend.

Feva

Quote from: ice grillin you on March 02, 2009, 12:00:08 AM
Quote from: General_Failure on March 01, 2009, 11:34:49 PM
Quote from: bowzer on March 01, 2009, 11:33:57 PM
He was still making plays and was the best FS on our roster.

I'm pretty sure I could count the plays Dawkins made last year on the hand of a shop teacher.

same amount of sacks as gocong bradley and jordan combined...more forced fumbles than bradley cole parker jordan mikell combined...third on the team in tackles...im not saying he was the dawk of 2002 but the revisionist history going on is ridiculous (but expected)

This is exactly what I was getting back to post.  Everyone talks about how Dawk made no plays all year and how terrible he was... even some bullshtein about not "wrapping up" while tackling anymore... but offers nothing to back it up.  Yes.. he was slower than he once was... and had some tough games last year.  That much is obvious to anyone with half a brain.  But again, it's become accepted as fact that Dawkins was a defensive liablity on the field and is completely done... when the truth is, he was one of the team's better defenders.

This move WAS NOT MADE because of Dawkins play on the field last year.  75 tackles, 3 sacks, 6 forced fumbles and an INT say so... not to mention the run suuport presence he still effectively provided.
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Quote from: BigEd76 on March 01, 2009, 09:54:23 PM
The Eagles made an offer, Dawk felt insulted and he found someone to give him double.  Why isn't he getting any blame here?  Instead of simply retiring, staying an Eagle forever and walking off as an Eagle fan hero, he took the money elsewhere, which he's entitled to do.

When Trotter left, he was a bitchboy for wanting more money, same thing with Reggie White years ago. I don't understand why it's different with Darth. He's untouchable.

Quote from: BigEd76 on March 01, 2009, 09:54:23 PMYeah, I'd feel 10000% better if the Eagles had a shot at drafting Taylor Mays next month, but they apparently feel that a guy 12 years younger will provide better coverage and more speed than Dawk.  And there's still a possibility of adding a FA or drafting William Moore, Rashad Johnson or Louis Delmas.

No, according to igy and his minions, that's not possible. The line has been drawn and you're either defending the FO or you must hate it. Their is no in between. It doesn't matter that 99.9% of everyone here bashes Banner and Reid on almost every move they make. You're either for them or against them, no matter what.