Donovan McNabb

Started by PhillyPhreak54, September 21, 2008, 12:23:35 AM

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ice grillin you

how many bowls do the birds have with ben...three?

and can you imagine donovan having to go thru the ravens to get to the superbowl instead of the cardinals...wow that game would have been super ugly
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SD_Eagle5

Quote from: MDS on February 03, 2009, 09:59:56 PM
rings
ben - 2
mcnabb - 0

Dilfer - 1
Marino - 0

Ben was terrible in the last superbowl, he was decent in this one. But lets just ignore the fact that he had the best D in the league.

Munson

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Quote from: King Cole on February 03, 2009, 07:44:30 PM
Quote from: Munson on February 03, 2009, 06:13:37 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on February 03, 2009, 06:10:41 AM
ummm the steelers won the superbowl in 2009... without any great wr's...what they did have was a clutch ass future hall of fame quarterback...who the hell cares what hines ward did in 2003

so i will ask the question again and this time slower....who are the great wr's on the steelers?

Again, shut the farg up.

Hines Ward and Santonio Holmes (edit: and Plaxico Burress)are better than every guy minus 1 that McNabb has ever had to throw to. DeSean Jackson may be better then both in a few years...he wasn't this year.

2008 - Santonio Holmes: 55 catches 821 yards
2008 - DeSean Jackson: 62 catches 912 yards

One is a rookie, one is a 3rd year player. One has had the best rookie WR year in Eagles history and one of them has been widely viewed as a disappointment up until this season's playoffs.

Please, with the Jackson isn't on Holmes' level yet. He's every bit as good as Holmes if not better. Holmes had a great game on a big stage, but Jackson hasn't had a chance to play on that stage yet.

One is the #2 option in a run first offense, one is the best option in an offense that passes 60% of the time.

Shut up.

IGY, stop being retarded. No one ever said they were the best WR's ever...this whole thing started because idiots like you are comparing McNabb to QB's that have had much better WR's to throw to. And yes, Hines Ward and Santonio Holmes are better than everyone McNabb has had to throw to, besides TO.

Ben Roethlisburger doesn't even make the playoffs in half the years this team has done it with McNabb, let alone win a Super Bowl.

Say whatever you want about McNabb, he still had the Eagles in the lead in the 4th quarter....the defense just had to go out there and make a couple stops. They didn't.
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 01, 2008, 05:10:48 PM
perhaps you could explain sd's reasons for "disliking" it as well since you seem to be so in tune with other peoples minds

ice grillin you

of all the teams in the world you wanna make an example of by saying their offfense has more weapons than the eagles youre gonna pick pittsbuirgh???...are you for real?...and you wonder why people take you as a joke


mcnabb had the lead in the 4th quarter except when the game was actually over....yay...big ben had the lead at the end of the superbowl


as sd pointed out trent dilfer has more rings than donovan...even tho donovan has been in five times as many conf championships...money friggin quarterback i say

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Tomahawk

SD was pointing out Trent Dilfer has more rings than Dan Marino, proving that Super Bowl rings aren't the measure of a QB.

ice grillin you

Quote from: Tomahawk on February 04, 2009, 10:00:37 AM
SD was pointing out Trent Dilfer has more rings than Dan Marino, proving that Super Bowl rings aren't the measure of a QB.

you mean a superbowl ring doesnt make trent dilfer as good as dan marino...how did you ever come up with that?

a ring doesnt make an average qb great but its what seperates good qb's from the all timers...anyone that thinks donovan is a better qb than big ben especially after watching the last two weeks is so far in the bag for donovan its not even funny
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Tomahawk

I have all-time smarts. That's how I came up with that.

I'm not saying McNabb is better than . All I'm saying is McNabb has been one of the five best QBs since he became a full time starter

stalker

Quote from: Tomahawk on February 04, 2009, 10:44:22 AM
I have all-time smarts. That's how I came up with that.

I'm not saying McNabb is better than . All I'm saying is McNabb has been one of the five best QBs since he became a full time starter

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PhillyPhreak54

QuoteDONOVAN MCNABB SLIGHTS EAGLES' DEFENSE
Posted by Aaron Wilson on February 4, 2009, 10:22 a.m.

Philadelphia Eagles quarterback Donovan McNabb took a not so thinly-veiled shot at his defensive teammates, pinning blame on them for the NFC title game loss to the Arizona Cardinals, according to the Philadelphia Inquirer.

During a 610 WIP-AM interview, McNabb's response to a question about why the Eagles couldn't respond offensively after the Cardinals' touchdown in the final minutes suggested that the defense was at fault for squandering a slight lead.

"We were up, 25-24," McNabb said, per the Inquirer. "We were up, 25-24. [The Cardinals] drove down 72 yards by running the ball - probably, what, eight times? And it reminded me so much of [the NFC championship game in] St. Louis where, coming back in that second half, they ran the ball nine times with Marshall Faulk to keep our offense off the field. Because they were terrified of us going back out and scoring more points."

McNabb, whose leadership has been questioned over the years, will have some fences to mend after this one, in the opinion of former Eagles defensive end Hugh Douglas.

"Some people will say it's not a big deal, but it is," Douglas said. "When you break that team code, it hits home. When you call someone your teammate, you're calling them your brother. Be loyal to your teammates. It's easy to point fingers. Brian Dawkins is a team player. He would never do that.

"I know Donovan. I respect Donovan. In his mind, he didn't say anything wrong. But a leader thinks before he speaks. That would never come out of a leader's mouth. Every year, Donovan says something that's inflammatory, then he doesn't explain himself. Explain yourself. When you alienate people who have your back, I need to understand why. I need to understand how he thinks. Right now, I don't."

Bottom line: McNabb could have handled the question a lot better. Time will tell whether this one has the legs to become a full-blown Philadelphia controversy, but my hunch is this will blow over without causing a major disruption in the locker room.

Oh boy...another thing to ignite the everlasting anti-McNabb crowd.

Magical_Retard

Quote from: ice grillin you on February 03, 2009, 09:48:52 PM
Quote from: Magical_Retard on February 03, 2009, 08:26:42 PM
Never heard of Holmes? He is no Moss but he is well known.

Still a combo of Ward, Holmes, and Washington might be better than Curtis, Jackson, and Avant if only because Ward and Holmes is a better combo than Curtis and Jackson. Regardless their O LINE sucks and they never got the running game at all this season. This season especially its been all Ben pulling something out at the end.

i was talking about munson not hearing of him

and when comparing the offenses youre leaving out westbrook...if you want to say the steelers skill positions are better then fine but its at best neglible and i can make an equally strong argument for the eagles offense being better...especially when you throw in the offensive line...which leads to my ultimate point to that moron munson that the difference is at qb...i mean if youre gonna make excuses for mcnabb at least compare the eagles to the cardinals who have fitz and boldin thats legit...that dope is trying to say ben is better than mcnabb because of the steeler wr's which is simply retarded

Eagles offense is better. Its inconsistent but it is better. But thats not because they have a better set of WRs, its because the Eagles Oline actually was pretty darn good this past season against the pass rush and allowed very few sacks. The Steelers OLINE was so bad they could not even resort to their bread and butter which is the running game and on top of that Ben was getting sacked and hit pretty hard all season.

I left out Westbrook because for the majority of the season he was honestly a non factor. He was either hurt while playing, missing games, or Reid took him out of the gameplan by abandoning the run completely.

Ben is much more clutch than McNabb and he proved it again in the Superbowl, but they also won because he had the superior defense. Eagles D gives up 24 pts in the first half. Steelers D gave up 7 going into the 4rth. The wins over the Vikes and Giants were all on McNabb and the Defense. Maybe if only one failed in the first half against the Cards they could have still won but both failing, recovering for that stretch in the 3rd and 4rth qrts, to both ultimately failing again led to the loss. It does not help that Westbrook was a non factor all throughout this.
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He's right, they had that 4th down play on Hightower, and didnt stop him. 
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rjs246

McNabb is a bitch. And he's right. The defense gave the game away and put him in a position to do what he does best. Choke on giant cocks.
Is rjs gonna have to choke a bitch?

Let them eat bootstraps.

stalker

Douglas has become a media stooge. He's not a player anymore.
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ice grillin you

ummm that mcnabb interview is from last friday...mcnabb is a POS and needs to get the farg out...i used to give him the benefit of the doubt and beleive they should keep himuntil they get a suitbale replacement but its so obvious how bad he wants out now that he is literally becoming TO before our eyes...trotter was on the radio this morning saying how the locker room has lost totasl respect for him


my favorite part..

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"We were up, 25-24," McNabb said, per the Inquirer. "We were up, 25-24. [The Cardinals] drove down 72 yards by running the ball - probably, what, eight times? And it reminded me so much of [the NFC championship game in] St. Louis where, coming back in that second half, they ran the ball nine times with Marshall Faulk to keep our offense off the field. Because they were terrified of us going back out and scoring more points."


hey douchebag....YOU DID GET THE BALL BACK AND SCORED ZERO POINTS

the guy has completely lost it...and even if you believe what hes saying and the defense lost the game the fact is you dont throw your trammates under the bus...dawkins sheldon et al...the true leaders of this team would never do that
i can take a phrase thats rarely heard...flip it....now its a daily word

igy gettin it done like warrick

im the board pharmacist....always one step above yous