Donovan McNabb

[ice grillin you]

ummm the steelers won the superbowl in 2009... without any great wr's...what they did have was a clutch ass future hall of fame quarterback...who the hell cares what hines ward did in 2003

so i will ask the question again and this time slower....who are the great wr's on the steelers?

[SD_Eagle5]

ummm the steelers won the superbowl in 2009... without any great wr's...what they did have was a clutch ass future hall of fame quarterback...who the hell cares what hines ward did in 2003

so i will ask the question again and this time slower....who are the great wr's on the steelers?

You're absolutely correct, the Eagles hold the Cards to 23 points and they're in the SB

[Feva]

ummm the steelers won the superbowl in 2009... without any great wr's...what they did have was a clutch ass future hall of fame quarterback...who the hell cares what hines ward did in 2003

so i will ask the question again and this time slower....who are the great wr's on the steelers?

You're absolutely correct, the Eagles hold the Cards to 23 points and they're in the SB

Uh oh, SD... you're taking focus away from McNabb "choking" in that game.  They tend to frown on that round these parts.

[ice grillin you]

dont really have to take away focus

1-5 in championship games speaks for itself

and it becamse crystal clear when on sunday was in the identical spot mcnabb was against the identical defense and scored to win


and for the record i dont know that mcnabb choked...he didnt throw a pick puke or do anything horribly stupid against the cards...he just came up incredibly short in a career defining spot

[Feva]

Career defining?  Ha!  His career, personality and even his psyche has been defined here for years.  The Cards game would've changed little to nothing.  People still would've said, "Do it in the Super Bowl."


Still love the Roethlisberger smilie, tho...

[mussa]

Just get McNabb a receiver. Conversation over.

[Magical_Retard]

ummm the steelers won the superbowl in 2009... without any great wr's...what they did have was a clutch ass future hall of fame quarterback...who the hell cares what hines ward did in 2003

so i will ask the question again and this time slower....who are the great wr's on the steelers?

I do not think anyone claimed Ben is only clutch in the 2 min because of some great WRs. That would be Warner.

Ben is clutch with ok WRs and a pretty bad offensive line. Most of the time he was running for his life trying to find the open guy. It helped though that Holmes turned one of those throws into a 40 yard gain when one defender tripped. I think Ben in the 2 min drill with the game on the line is the best QB in the game right now. I would take him in that situation over Brady and definetely over P. Manning.

Ben somehow turns on a switch in those moments no matter how bad he has played or how bad the offense has been up to that point. I think the offense scored 13 pts total up to that point. The other TD was the incredible Harrison pick 6. 13 pts against a pretty average Cardinals defense, yet when it mattered most he engineered a great drive.

[Munson]

ummm the steelers won the superbowl in 2009... without any great wr's...what they did have was a clutch ass future hall of fame quarterback...who the hell cares what hines ward did in 2003

so i will ask the question again and this time slower....who are the great wr's on the steelers?

Again, shut the farg up.

Hines Ward and Santonio Holmes (edit: and Plaxico Burress)are better than every guy minus 1 that McNabb has ever had to throw to. DeSean Jackson may be better then both in a few years...he wasn't this year.

[mussa]

DeSean Jackson was lucky to have even made it through the entire season without injury. They guy is so small, he's just a step away from injury. I cringe every time I see him get hit. Now that being said I was very surprised at the toughness he showed and has very special abilities. To rely on this guy as our future number one though doesn't sit in my stomach well. The kid had a hell of a rookie year, I love him, but as a number 1, no. I want a proven vet.

[ice grillin you]

ummm the steelers won the superbowl in 2009... without any great wr's...what they did have was a clutch ass future hall of fame quarterback...who the hell cares what hines ward did in 2003

so i will ask the question again and this time slower....who are the great wr's on the steelers?

Again, shut the farg up.

Hines Ward and Santonio Holmes (edit: and Plaxico Burress)are better than every guy minus 1 that McNabb has ever had to throw to. DeSean Jackson may be better then both in a few years...he wasn't this year.

you never even heard of santonio holmes before sunday....and with ward at least youve heard the same but as king cole pointed youre living in the past...im pretty sure youve never seen him play...but all of a sudden now in 2009 they are the best wr's ever...the difference is they have two time superbowl winner throwing to them...when the king cole is schooling you its time to stop talking sports please

eagles have more talent on offense than the steelers and a far superior offensive line...steelers offensive line was atrocious this year...the difference is at qb...mcnabb could only dream of leading a drive and making a pass like sunday

period

[The BIGSTUD]

ummm the steelers won the superbowl in 2009... without any great wr's...what they did have was a clutch ass future hall of fame quarterback...who the hell cares what hines ward did in 2003

so i will ask the question again and this time slower....who are the great wr's on the steelers?

Again, shut the farg up.

Hines Ward and Santonio Holmes (edit: and Plaxico Burress)are better than every guy minus 1 that McNabb has ever had to throw to. DeSean Jackson may be better then both in a few years...he wasn't this year.

2008 - Santonio Holmes: 55 catches 821 yards
2008 - DeSean Jackson: 62 catches 912 yards

One is a rookie, one is a 3rd year player. One has had the best rookie WR year in Eagles history and one of them has been widely viewed as a disappointment up until this season's playoffs.

Please, with the Jackson isn't on Holmes' level yet. He's every bit as good as Holmes if not better. Holmes had a great game on a big stage, but Jackson hasn't had a chance to play on that stage yet.

[Magical_Retard]

ummm the steelers won the superbowl in 2009... without any great wr's...what they did have was a clutch ass future hall of fame quarterback...who the hell cares what hines ward did in 2003

so i will ask the question again and this time slower....who are the great wr's on the steelers?

Again, shut the farg up.

Hines Ward and Santonio Holmes (edit: and Plaxico Burress)are better than every guy minus 1 that McNabb has ever had to throw to. DeSean Jackson may be better then both in a few years...he wasn't this year.

you never even heard of santonio holmes before sunday....and with ward at least youve heard the same but as king cole pointed youre living in the past...im pretty sure youve never seen him play...but all of a sudden now in 2009 they are the best wr's ever...the difference is they have two time superbowl winner throwing to them...when the king cole is schooling you its time to stop talking sports please

Never heard of Holmes? He is no Moss but he is well known. And Ward leads off every Steelers story on every pre game show because of how tough he is or whatever team has a bounty on him. Also Ben sucked terribly in that first Superbowl (his QB rating was 22 point something) and that was more Bettis and the Defense.

But yeah the Eagles have a better offense except for when it counts in the fourth qrt. Still a combo of Ward, Holmes, and Washington might be better than Curtis, Jackson, and Avant if only because Ward and Holmes is a better combo than Curtis and Jackson. Regardless their O LINE sucks and they never got the running game at all this season. This season especially its been all Ben pulling something out at the end.

Steelers do have a better defense all throughout and really they never seem to forget how to tackle or play in the big moments. Holding the Cards to 7 well into the fourth quarter was quite a accomplishment till they decided to back off and play soft.

[ice grillin you]

Never heard of Holmes? He is no Moss but he is well known.

Still a combo of Ward, Holmes, and Washington might be better than Curtis, Jackson, and Avant if only because Ward and Holmes is a better combo than Curtis and Jackson. Regardless their O LINE sucks and they never got the running game at all this season. This season especially its been all Ben pulling something out at the end.

i was talking about munson not hearing of him

and when comparing the offenses youre leaving out westbrook...if you want to say the steelers skill positions are better then fine but its at best neglible and i can make an equally strong argument for the eagles offense being better...especially when you throw in the offensive line...which leads to my ultimate point to that moron munson that the difference is at qb...i mean if youre gonna make excuses for mcnabb at least compare the eagles to the cardinals who have fitz and boldin thats legit...that dope is trying to say ben is better than mcnabb because of the steeler wr's which is simply retarded

[mpmcgraw]

agreed.

ben is not better than mcnabb in the first place.

[MDS]

rings
ben - 2
mcnabb - 0