Jason Avant

[Seabiscuit36]

They'll draft Jordan Shipley

[stalker]

Trade down and draft new OT's














Alright, alright, that was a joke. Why are we taking about the draft in here on the Jason Avant thread?  Anyway, Baskett was on Monday Night Live last night and he was talking up the company line. The reason they don't have or need a superstar WR is because they like to have interchangable parts in case of injury or accidental shootings. The conversation came up when someone asked how Burress being suspended affects the Giants. Oh and I don't see the necessity of upgrading the TE position. I think Celek is really a diamond in the rough. He is developing into a real nice addition. He needs to work on the blocking some though.

And like it or not, the Eagles will draft BPA regardless of position.

[PhillyPhreak54]

If Crabtree is there, and he likely won't be, when they pick I would not scream if they spent a pick on him. But I would prefer to upgrade the spots that rjs mentioned. Upgrading those spots, bringing back McNabb on a new deal and keeping these WRs the same is good with me.

to win now what spots need upgrading more than wr...te is the only one i can think of...sure they need tackles and a safety but that is for the future...to improve the team in the next nine months in order to win it all in jan '10 then wr is at or near the top of the list...when you want to win right away its not enough to have players that if everything goes right could win a championship...you want to be well on the other side of the fence and have talent that should win a title

I would like another stud DE opposite Cole. Parker and Howard are good role players, but I want another guy who defenses must look after.

TE
DE
FB
RB
OT
WR

That's how I'd rank it right now. Like I said, I would welcome a new WR in, but I don't see it as a pressing need as much as before.

[mussa]

I can agree and disagree on both. It really depends what offense decides to show up. The pass happy offense that needs a legit #1 or the balanced offense which works great having mediocre talent at WR. The fact is this team is having a major identity crisis right now. One week they are balanced, the next they get pass happy. I understand you have to game plan against certain teams but the fact is one works better than the other with the players we have right now. I would rather have a legit #1 than anything right now for the offense. I have next to zero confidence the balanced offense will continue to be utilized on game day, week after week. I'd be much more comfortable with that #1 guy

[Feva]

If Crabtree is there, and he likely won't be, when they pick I would not scream if they spent a pick on him. But I would prefer to upgrade the spots that rjs mentioned. Upgrading those spots, bringing back McNabb on a new deal and keeping these WRs the same is good with me.

to win now what spots need upgrading more than wr...te is the only one i can think of...sure they need tackles and a safety but that is for the future...to improve the team in the next nine months in order to win it all in jan '10 then wr is at or near the top of the list...when you want to win right away its not enough to have players that if everything goes right could win a championship...you want to be well on the other side of the fence and have talent that should win a title

I agree.  As far as the skill positions go... if they want to win now... WR is right at the top of the list.  I would put it above TE simply because with a true #1 WR, this WR corps goes from OK or pretty good... to one of the overall best in the league.  I would feel damn good about trotting out #1 WR, Curtis and Jackson all game while mixing in Avant, Baskett and Brown/Lewis.  Celek is more than capable of flourishing with that kind of outside support in a move the chains, red zone type of role.

I would put RB over TE if I actually believed Reid just had some sort of epiphany when it comes to running the ball.  Even still, I think it's a top need because of Westbrook's up and down health and it would give an added dimension to the offense.  Again... if I thought Andy would do it.

[ice grillin you]

a #1 wr would transform this team to instant title favorite in the nfc

you would have the complete package

a true 1
a burner on the outside (pimp)
the perfect slot guy (curtis)
great posession guy (avant)

the whole spectrum would be covered and with that around westbrook this offense wouldnt have anymore cincy taterskin raven type duds

[Feva]

a #1 wr would transform this team to instant title favorite in the nfc

you would have the complete package

a true 1
a burner on the outside (pimp)
the perfect slot guy (curtis)
great posession guy (avant)

the whole spectrum would be covered and with that around westbrook this offense wouldnt have anymore cincy taterskin raven type duds

Stop it.  You're just pissing me off because that's what we should have had THIS year.  Any of the #1's they were "rumored"  to be going after this past offseason would have worked... including Roy Williams considering he would've had OTA's and an entire training camp to get acclimated.  Some would've worked better than others, Fitzgerald at the top of my list... but in the end, the results would be largely the same.  We damn sure wouldn't have been fighting for the last wildcard spot a week or two ago.

The crazy part about the Eagles WR's is not that they're bad players at this point, they're just miscast (Curtis as #1, Baskett #2, etc).  A true #1 knocks each of them down a notch and coincidentally, into the slot that they're best suited to play.  While #1 is doin' his thing against the opposing D's top CB/double coverage... all of a sudden, Pimp is the deep threat and 1 on 1 against a #2 CB, Pimp/Curtis/Avant is in the slot against nickel CB's/Safeties.  shtein.

[rjs246]

How can you even think that they would avoid those dud games? Andy Reid would still be the coach. Donovan would still be the quarterback. And they still wouldn't run the ball. A WR isn't going to change any of those facts.

[Feva]

A top WR can be the guy to make a gamechanging play with the ball in his hands even if McNabb doesn't do all the heavy lifting ala Westbrook this past Sun.

A top WR makes it reasonable that when Andy gets pass happy, he actually has the players in place to make it effective.

[rjs246]

No.

[Diomedes]

A stud WR would do exactly what Feva and vigy say, and the team would have been better.  With that set up, Reid's "pass to set up the run" mentality would be more effective.

But I also agree with rjs.  Andy would still do his thing, which I will remind you is not simply his addiction to the pass.  Sure, that particular facet of his coaching would not be quite as destructive, but the rest of his schtick would still cause football disaster every third game or so.  Sure, the run game would be opened up a bit if the opposition was forced to respect the WRs more, but that doesn't mean Andy would call runs more.  It just means those games which the Eagles won easily, they would have won more easily.

He would still call awful games.  He would still use timeouts like they came in dozens.  He would still fail to adjust his scheme in the midst of a tough game.

I'd love to have had Fitz or Roy, but I'm not convinced it would have been the difference between 9-6-1 and 12-4 as you guys seem to think.

[Rome]

I love you guys.

[rjs246]

There are plenty of teams that have 'true #1 receivers' and they all still need to use the run game to be competitive. This idea that adding a receiver will make the Eagles the conference favorite is laughable.

Andy Reid is still their coach for god's sake.

[Diomedes]

I love Israel.

[Rome]

Israeli Army Broads = Hot.