Jason Avant

Feva · January 06, 2009, 05:32:52 AM

I've been calling him "Mr. 3rd down" since about midway last year... and yes, I am ashamed of that.

mussa · January 06, 2009, 10:45:03 AM

ill take a solid possession receiver who is not afraid of contact any day. oh and a legit stud/threat/number one receiver would be nice also.

PhillyPhreak54 · January 06, 2009, 10:51:10 AM

I want a legit stud too...watching Larry Fitz play makes me jealous.

However, with this group here....they are pretty good. And if they stayed together with McNabb they could win a SB win them.

Add a dangerous TE into the mix and its even better.

rjs246 · January 06, 2009, 10:52:59 AM

A stud receiver would be nice, yes, but this team has enough talent at the WR position to get by. Curtis and Jackson are definitely their best tandem of the Andy Reid era. Avant, Baskett and Brown are all good 3-4-5 role players. Greg Lewis is even tolerable as a 6th receiver, special teams guy. Jackson makes this group acceptable in my mind.

The team (and the fans) need to focus on the other areas that need to be addressed. TE, S, OL, FB and RB. WR has finally fallen way down the list of needs for this team, which probably means that they will go out and grab a top tier WR this offseason.

reese125 · January 06, 2009, 11:04:56 AM

as much as I think Curtis and Jackson are a nice duo, one lacks the essential size of a WR in the X position that can get up after a ball on some bigger defenders, esp in the red zone....but whatever.

i just dont think it fair to ask Mcnabb to place a perfectly thrown 40 yd ball in stride down the sidelines on 3rd and 1 every time

rjs246 · January 06, 2009, 11:14:44 AM

I don't think its fair either. And I think that this team would be served by getting a Boldin or Fitzgerald or whatever. Every team would. I'm just saying that for the first time in years (the TO year not withstanding) WR is not at the top of the list of things the team should be looking for this offseason.

ice grillin you · January 06, 2009, 11:20:24 AM

totally disagree....their number 1-2 wr is a 31 year old #3 wr...especially having two number ones i would have no problem taking a wr in the first round and overall they need an upgrade there

PhillyPhreak54 · January 06, 2009, 11:23:13 AM

No doubt adding a guy like Boldin or Housh would make them better. But I think as constructed now, they could win.

rjs246 · January 06, 2009, 11:24:28 AM

IGY, I just don't see that. Curtis isn't an all-pro but he's alright. Jackson could definitely be a good receiver with some more maturity and consistency. They could use an upgrade, sure, but I would throw my remote through the TV if they used a #1 on a WR this year.

ice grillin you · January 06, 2009, 11:25:58 AM

in this nfl theycould win with what they have....just like andy reid could be a sb winning coach

but upgrade the position and you go from could win closer to should win and thats what its all about

PhillyPhreak54 · January 06, 2009, 11:28:10 AM

If Crabtree is there, and he likely won't be, when they pick I would not scream if they spent a pick on him. But I would prefer to upgrade the spots that rjs mentioned. Upgrading those spots, bringing back McNabb on a new deal and keeping these WRs the same is good with me.

ice grillin you · January 06, 2009, 11:28:25 AM

Quote from: rjs246 on January 06, 2009, 11:24:28 AM
IGY, I just don't see that. Curtis isn't an all-pro but he's alright. Jackson could definitely be a good receiver with some more maturity and consistency. They could use an upgrade, sure, but I would throw my remote through the TV if they used a #1 on a WR this year.

of course it would have to be the correct pick at the correct spot but i would love if they got another young stud at wr and if they got that in the first round then so be it im all in

rjs246 · January 06, 2009, 11:29:38 AM

Upgrading the WR position doesn't upgrade the team or even just the offense as much as upgrading the TE and FB positions. A real fullback opens things up for Westbrook (proven) which opens things up for Reid's passing insanity and increases the production of the players they have.

rjs246 · January 06, 2009, 11:30:53 AM

And yes, if Crabtree was there I would change my tune. But he won't be.

Ultimately I want them to draft the best players available and hopefully those players will fit their needs, but the positions I listed initially are much bigger needs than WR right now.

ice grillin you · January 06, 2009, 11:33:03 AM

Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on January 06, 2009, 11:28:10 AM
If Crabtree is there, and he likely won't be, when they pick I would not scream if they spent a pick on him. But I would prefer to upgrade the spots that rjs mentioned. Upgrading those spots, bringing back McNabb on a new deal and keeping these WRs the same is good with me.

to win now what spots need upgrading more than wr...te is the only one i can think of...sure they need tackles and a safety but that is for the future...to improve the team in the next nine months in order to win it all in jan '10 then wr is at or near the top of the list...when you want to win right away its not enough to have players that if everything goes right could win a championship...you want to be well on the other side of the fence and have talent that should win a title