Political Hippo Circle Jerk - America, farg YEAH!

Started by PoopyfaceMcGee, December 11, 2006, 01:30:30 PM

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Cerevant

WTF does that video have to do with the election?
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Seabiscuit36

Quote from: Cerevant on October 28, 2008, 12:52:48 PM
WTF does that video have to do with the election?
IT HAS EVERYTHING TO DO WITH THE ELECTION THAT YOU CANT VOTE IN
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ATV

QuoteAgain, any examples NOT on Fox News?

There are sparingly few. Are you implying that Fixed News is not a legitimate news outlet? I would agree.

QuoteBasically, Fox News is the one media outlet that is not in the bag for Obama

Ok, so Fox is just a media outlet then. Like Inside Edition. Or Entertainment Tonight.

Regarding legitimate news outlets being in the bag for Obama. Only MSNBC. I would agree that MSNBC has been drfiting to the left. I think this is for two reasons. A) In response to the corrupt Bush administration. Olbermann has served a valuable role in putting in perspective all the illegal crap that has been going on. That is, if the Bush administration hadn't been criminal, or inept, there wouldn't be much to react to. And B) Money. They've filled a viewership void. A void that (similar to point A) has grown is response to the Bush administration.

That being said, I agree with what other have written on here - While they may have this lense they looks through they are still competent journalists. They have respectable members like Buchanan and Scarborough for other points of view, whereas Fox hired the most snively weak-willed Democrat, in Colmes, that they could find. MSNBC brings in just as many Republican pundits as they do Democrat, and they don't talk over or belittle any of them. MSNBC doesn't go out of its way to cover only positive news stories...

http://www.thedailyshow.com/video/index.jhtml?videoId=187600&title=Fox-News-Panics

I could go on, and on, and on. The only thing that MSNBC has in common with Fox is that they both have a bias. One is legitimate, the other isn't.

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whats frightening about fox news is not that it exists but that its by far the most watched cable "news" network
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PoopyfaceMcGee

Quote from: ATV on October 28, 2008, 01:16:55 PM
I could go on, and on, and on. The only thing that MSNBC has in common with Fox is that they both have a bias. One agrees with my bias, the other doesn't.

Fixed for correctness.


Phanatic

Someone at work yesterday started talking about how no Christain of any denomination can vote for Obama because of his voting record and stance on abortion. He was even quoting "the Scriptures". It was actually somewhat effective, but he knew his audience. I can't wrap my head around it though.
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General_Failure

I suppose that its too much to ask that a very large portion of the Republican party break off to form a new party based on fiscal conservatism without all that pesky religious pandering.

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Phanatic

Unfortunatly the GOP is JUST social conservative. Other then that every problem they were faced with while in power  increase the size of the government. Fiscal conservatism is dead.
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Rome

Fiscal conservatism is an oxymoron.  Government, by its very nature, is expansive and all-consuming.  For a country with 300-plus million citizens, expecting a small centralized federal government is ridiculous.

We have a big government because we're a big country.  Expecting the private sector to provide for all of us is preposterous.

As a Libertarian I'd prefer it, but as a realist, I know it's just not remotely possible at this point.

PoopyfaceMcGee

Quote from: Phanatic on October 28, 2008, 01:48:27 PM
Unfortunatly the GOP is JUST social conservative. Other then that every problem they were faced with while in power  increase the size of the government. Fiscal conservatism is dead.

*ding*  fargers.


Quote from: Phanatic on October 28, 2008, 01:41:25 PM
Someone at work yesterday started talking about how no Christain of any denomination can vote for Obama because of his voting record and stance on abortion. He was even quoting "the Scriptures". It was actually somewhat effective, but he knew his audience. I can't wrap my head around it though.

It's pretty easy.  Abortion is devastatingly wrong.  It should be abhorred and illegal.  But, it's not.  It's been legal for 30 years, and more than half of America accepts it in one form or another as a last-ditch form of birth control.

I hate even thinking about abortion, but I don't let a politician's stance on it affect me much, because Roe v Wade will never be overturned, as much as liberals want to scare people to help pack the courts with those that legislate from the bench.  Pro-Choice is just status quo at this point.

Rome

Abortion might be immoral but it should NOT be illegal.  Sorry, but there's too many instances where the procedure is a necessity.

PhillyGirl

FF..how do you feel about a woman who has been raped or an 11 year old child who was molested by her father/uncle/grandfather and left pregnant?

What about a woman who will die if she carries her child to term? Or if the baby has a disability that would prevent he/she from living to term?

How do you feel about backalley abortions where both mother and child would die by some guy claiming to be a doctor who will perform the procedure?
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Diomedes

Hey I know what would be great, let's talk about abortion!
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