Political Hippo Circle Jerk - America, farg YEAH!

[ice grillin you]

Who wants to see some video of Palin's church services?

http://www.talk2action.org/story/2008/9/8/114332/7479

No worse than Obama's.

Just sayin...

What the farg is wrong with people?

Ill never understand for the life of me how idiots will stand in front of a freak preacher and fall to the ground when they are touched. Those people truly make me angry

every once in a while i dont want reese to get aids

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

It's like his teddy bear.


Damn McCain for pandering to the religious by picking Palin!

[Seabiscuit36]

Palin is clearly ready to run a country  She scares the shtein outta me, because she is exactly what is wrong with this country. 

Another valley activist, Philip Munger, says that Palin also helped push the evangelical drive to take over the Mat-Su Borough school board. "She wanted to get people who believed in creationism on the board," said Munger, a music composer and teacher. "I bumped into her once after my band played at a graduation ceremony at the Assembly of God. I said, 'Sarah, how can you believe in creationism -- your father's a science teacher.' And she said, 'We don't have to agree on everything.'

"I pushed her on the earth's creation, whether it was really less than 7,000 years old and whether dinosaurs and humans walked the earth at the same time. And she said yes, she'd seen images somewhere of dinosaur fossils with human footprints in them."

Munger also asked Palin if she truly believed in the End of Days, the doomsday scenario when the Messiah will return. "She looked in my eyes and said, 'Yes, I think I will see Jesus come back to earth in my lifetime.'"

[MDS]

so what big deal, youre talkin about a vice president that likes it in the pooper. in.

[Seabiscuit36]

so what big deal, youre talkin about a vice president that likes it in the pooper. in.

only if its a Train of Dinosaurs and Jesus

[MDS]

[ice grillin you]

on the back of the box they have him in a turbin and it says something like point the box towards mecca or some shtein like that

Inevitably, his work brought him into conflict with Palin and other highly politicized Christian fundamentalists in the valley. "Things got very intense around here in the '90s -- the culture war was very hot here," Bess said. "The evangelicals were trying to take over the valley. They took over the school board, the community hospital board, even the local electric utility. And Sarah Palin was in the direct center of all these culture battles, along with the churches she belonged to."

Bess' first run-in with Palin's religious forces came when he decided to write his book, "Pastor, I Am Gay." The book was the result of a theological journey that began in the 1970s when Bess was asked for guidance by a closeted homosexual in his Santa Barbara congregation. After deep reflection on the subject, Bess came to the conclusion that "gay people were not sick, nor they were special sinners."

In his book, Bess suggests that gays have a divine mission. "Look back at the life of our Lord Jesus. He was misunderstood, deserted, unjustly accused, and cruelly killed. Yet we all confess that it was the will of God, for by his wounds we are healed ... Could it be that the homosexual, obedient to the will of God, might be the church's modern day healer-messiah?"

why cant more religious people be like this cat

palin is a nut job

[rjs246]

In my experience, most religious people are like that cat. Tolerant and peaceful. Of course, those aren't the ones falling all over themselves to give soundbites or force their way of thinking on you which is all the newpapers care about...

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

You are clearly a liar.  Everyone that believes in a higher power is a wacko that should be institutionalized.

[fansince61]

Palin is clearly ready to run a country  She scares the shtein outta me, because she is exactly what is wrong with this country. 

The one thing I've learned in the last 71/2 years is that the old saying: "Anybody can grow up to be president in America" is really true...ANYBODY

[ice grillin you]

no just the ones that run your party

The Ugly New McCain

By Richard Cohen
Wednesday, September 17, 2008;



Following his loss to George W. Bush in the 2000 South Carolina primary, John McCain did something extraordinary: He confessed to lying about how he felt about the Confederate battle flag, which he actually abhorred. "I broke my promise to always tell the truth," McCain said. Now he has broken that promise so completely that the John McCain of old is unrecognizable. He has become the sort of politician he once despised.

The precise moment of McCain's abasement came, would you believe, not at some news conference or on one of the Sunday shows but on "The View," the daytime TV show created by Barbara Walters. Last week, one of the co-hosts, Joy Behar, took McCain to task for some of the ads his campaign has been running. One deliberately mischaracterized what Barack Obama had said about putting lipstick on a pig -- an Americanism that McCain himself has used. The other asserted that Obama supported teaching sex education to kindergarteners.

"We know that those two ads are untrue," Behar said. "They are lies."

Freeze. Close in on McCain. This was the moment. He has largely been avoiding the press. The Straight Talk Express is now just a brand, an ad slogan like "Home Cooking" or "We Will Not Be Undersold." Until then, it was possible for McCain to say that he had not really known about the ads, that the formulation "I approve this message" was just boilerplate. But he didn't.

"Actually, they are not lies," he said.

Actually, they are.

McCain has turned ugly. His dishonesty would be unacceptable in any politician, but McCain has always set his own bar higher than most. He has contempt for most of his colleagues for that very reason: They lie. He tells the truth. He internalizes the code of the McCains -- his grandfather, his father: both admirals of the shining sea. He serves his country differently, that's all -- but just as honorably. No more, though.

I am one of the journalists accused over the years of being in the tank for McCain. Guilty. Those doing the accusing usually attributed my feelings to McCain being accessible. This is the journalist-as-puppy school of thought: Give us a treat, and we will leap into a politician's lap.

Not so. What impressed me most about McCain was the effect he had on his audiences, particularly young people. When he talked about service to a cause greater than oneself, he struck a chord. He expressed his message in words, but he packaged it in the McCain story -- that man, beaten to a pulp, who chose honor over freedom. This had nothing to do with access. It had to do with integrity.

McCain has soiled all that. His opportunistic and irresponsible choice of Sarah Palin as his political heir -- the person in whose hands he would leave the country -- is a form of personal treason, a betrayal of all he once stood for. Palin, no matter what her other attributes, is shockingly unprepared to become president. McCain knows that. He means to win, which is all right; he means to win at all costs, which is not.

At a forum last week at Columbia University, McCain said, "But right now we have to restore trust and confidence in government." This was always the promise of John McCain, the single best reason to vote for him. America has been cheated on too many times -- the lies of Vietnam and Watergate and Iraq. So many lies. Who believes that in Afghanistan last month, only five civilians were killed by the American military in an airstrike, instead of the approximately 90 claimed by the Afghan government? Not me. I first gave up on the military during Vietnam and then again when it covered up the death of Pat Tillman, the Army Ranger and former NFL player who was killed in 2004 by friendly fire.

McCain was going to fix all that. He was going to look the American people in the eyes and say, not me. I will not lie to you. I am John McCain, son and grandson of admirals. I tell the truth.

But Joy Behar knew better. And so McCain lied about his lying and maybe thinks that if he wins the election, he can -- as he did in South Carolina -- renounce who he was and what he did and resume his old persona. It won't work. Karl Marx got one thing right -- what he said about history repeating itself. Once is tragedy, a second time is farce. John McCain is both.

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

So, he allows his campaign to practice sensationalism in advertising, and he picked Palin.  Those two factors alone basically undo everything he's ever said and done to that point, right?

I can't say I completely disagree with the sentiment, but Obama's people and supporters really give him no choice when his record of bipartisan work and moderate and "maverick" stances against his party's lines is ignored in favor of running a campaign against a 3rd term of Bush.

The American people do not have the patience or intelligence as a whole to listen when McCain tries to speak about his record to point out how different he is from Bush.  Plan B has to be to bring Barack down in kind.  That's the way American politics work, and that's why American politics sucks.

[fansince61]

no just the ones that run your party

I prefer to think of myself AS A MAN OF THE PEOPLE!

As President/CEO of DYETS Inc.(51% owner,  we - the company):

          Pay 100% of our empoyess healthcare
          Have the highest paid employees in the industry(every employee, myself included, now has the the highest paid job they have ever had.
          Pay 5-10% of each employess gross pay each year into THEIR SEP.

Still waiting for a democrat to do that with their fargin money   They usually hire illegals as housekeepers

[Phanatic]

McCain has a tight rope to walk. If he talks to much about what he has done against his party to be called a maverick he risks alienating the GOP base. He needs that base to be elected. So he has to try to sell out without selling out. That's really what Palin is all about. She appeals to that base and it's not him doing it directly. I don't think I'm buying it anymore.

[Phanatic]

no just the ones that run your party

I prefer to think of myself AS A MAN OF THE PEOPLE!

As President/CEO of DYETS Inc.(51% owner,  we - the company):

          Pay 100% of our empoyess healthcare
          Have the highest paid employees in the industry(every employee, myself included, now has the the highest paid job they have ever had.
          Pay 5-10% of each employess gross pay each year into THEIR SEP.

Still waiting for a democrat to do that with their fargin money   They usually hire illegals

I know some folks that need a job...