Political Hippo Circle Jerk - America, farg YEAH!

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PoopyfaceMcGee

Quote from: fansince61 on September 04, 2008, 02:40:57 PM
Quote from: Cerevant on September 04, 2008, 02:30:35 PM
Quote from: FastFreddie on September 04, 2008, 02:23:03 PM
Quote from: Cerevant on September 04, 2008, 02:11:07 PM
Hey, I voted for Perot twice.  Go fig.

Is that supposed to give you more "cred" or less?

Just giving you the benefit of the doubt for voting for Bush twice.

Oh, BTW - The teleprompter did not break

Sneaky semantics? No one said the telepromter broke.  It just kept running and was ahead of where she was in her speach

But how far in advance?  Oh my God, drama!

Cerevant

Read the article - it wasn't constantly running ahead, just a few seconds here and there.
An ad hominem fallacy consists of asserting that someone's argument is wrong and/or he is wrong to argue at all purely because of something discreditable/not-authoritative about the person or those persons cited by him rather than addressing the soundness of the argument itself.

PoopyfaceMcGee

One blogger said one thing, and one said another.

ice grillin you

cant believe yous read bloggers
double cant believe yous are debating whether a teleprompter broke

i can take a phrase thats rarely heard...flip it....now its a daily word

igy gettin it done like warrick

im the board pharmacist....always one step above yous

PoopyfaceMcGee

I can't believe you actually write out "yous" when posting online.

ice grillin you

when writing one word is always better than two
i can take a phrase thats rarely heard...flip it....now its a daily word

igy gettin it done like warrick

im the board pharmacist....always one step above yous

Phanatic

I've flipped flopped more then Mitt Romney's stance on abortion over this VP pick, which is really why Mitt shouldn't be the choice for anything. Not leaning one way or the other as far as my vote but just objectively trying to see it for what it is.

What Palin has whether we agree with her or like her or whatever is the ability to energize the conservative base and it's pure strategy. McCain is not entirely loved by the right wing of his party. In a great paradox that is politics they dislike him because he's not like Reagan when in fact he's actually more like Reagan then they realize IMHO. She gets all those folks who aren't crazy about McCain talking about her in their churches and small town meetings and what not. She gets the reality TV factor going and people are paying attention to the GOP all of a sudden. She's a wild card in this thing but she gets some buzz and McCain has needed that badly. Once people have chosen sides they'll both think their candidate 'won' the debate no matter what was said and argue about it all day long just like you lot are here.

This is all theater and that's what wins elections. On that front it's been all Obama up until this point. If I look at it strategically it was a brilliant pick. Negative press is still press and the GOP is getting more then they've had up to this point.
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phillymic2000

Quote from: ATV on September 04, 2008, 01:21:48 PM
QuoteUnfazed, Governor Palin continued, from memory, to deliver her speech without the teleprompter cued to the appropriate point in her speech.
I heard she was up until the wee hours the night before and contiued praticing all the same day. If she were any sort of decent orator why should she need a teleprompter at all. She will be exposed during the debate. Unfortunatey there's only one of them.

:-D

Cerevant

Finally - a valid point: yes, Palin does bring appeal to the right wing voters who really wished that Huckabee was leading the ticket.  We'll see what effect she has on the "swing" moderate voters.

I also like the concession that McCain isn't putting "Country First".  Even Rove admits that this was a campaign decision, not a governing one.
An ad hominem fallacy consists of asserting that someone's argument is wrong and/or he is wrong to argue at all purely because of something discreditable/not-authoritative about the person or those persons cited by him rather than addressing the soundness of the argument itself.

Father Demon

Quote from: Cerevant on September 04, 2008, 03:15:44 PM
I also like the concession that McCain isn't putting "Country First".  Even Rove admits that this was a campaign decision, not a governing one.

I don't believe anyone on here has said anything different than that.  If they have, I missed it.
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PoopyfaceMcGee

Quote from: FastFreddie on August 30, 2008, 08:53:34 AM
McCain basically did what he had to do with the pick of Palin.  I understand and partially agree with many of the knocks on the choice, but she is the political equivalent of a "hail mary," which is what he needed to have any chance in November.

Quote from: Phanatic on September 04, 2008, 03:04:44 PM
I've flipped flopped more then Mitt Romney's stance on abortion over this VP pick, which is really why Mitt shouldn't be the choice for anything. Not leaning one way or the other as far as my vote but just objectively trying to see it for what it is.

What Palin has whether we agree with her or like her or whatever is the ability to energize the conservative base and it's pure strategy. McCain is not entirely loved by the right wing of his party. In a great paradox that is politics they dislike him because he's not like Reagan when in fact he's actually more like Reagan then they realize IMHO. She gets all those folks who aren't crazy about McCain talking about her in their churches and small town meetings and what not. She gets the reality TV factor going and people are paying attention to the GOP all of a sudden. She's a wild card in this thing but she gets some buzz and McCain has needed that badly. Once people have chosen sides they'll both think their candidate 'won' the debate no matter what was said and argue about it all day long just like you lot are here.

This is all theater and that's what wins elections. On that front it's been all Obama up until this point. If I look at it strategically it was a brilliant pick. Negative press is still press and the GOP is getting more then they've had up to this point.

I just went back to make sure that you basically said the same thing I said a few days ago.

I still just find it absolutely hilarious that anyone on the left is actually trying to pretend they'd rather McCain picked someone better.  If she is such an awful pick, wouldn't they be happy?  Furthermore, who would they rather?  Tom Ridge?  Please.

reese125

I'm sorry, when it comes down to it as sad as it is to say--Hillary might be the only woman that "could of" been taken seriously in office if elected. Hated or not, she got respect somehow

This has become a farging childish game  with basically McCain playing pin the tail on the VP.

This nation has seen enough in the last 8yrs for McCain to make a mockery out this election. Seeing Palin up there speaking to sheep and having anyone following her is off-the-charts horrendous

"I want everyone to meet my husband...say hi honey! He's a professional snowmobile racer..."

Shut the farg up you drunk whore.

Cerevant

Don't get me wrong - I'm thrilled with the choice.  The moderates are clearly uncertain about Obama, and still remember McCain from 2000.  The selection of Palin makes it crystal clear how far right this ticket really is.

What makes some people angry is the audacity of McCain to make this choice, like we wouldn't notice that she is a joke of a candidate.  It just shows how little respect the Republicans have for the US people.  The fact that he'll still probably get a bounce out of this shows how sadly right they are.
An ad hominem fallacy consists of asserting that someone's argument is wrong and/or he is wrong to argue at all purely because of something discreditable/not-authoritative about the person or those persons cited by him rather than addressing the soundness of the argument itself.

ice grillin you

Quote from: FastFreddie on September 04, 2008, 03:27:24 PM
I still just find it absolutely hilarious that anyone on the left is actually trying to pretend they'd rather McCain picked someone better.  If she is such an awful pick, wouldn't they be happy?  Furthermore, who would they rather?  Tom Ridge?  Please.

i dont know anyone (and i dont hang out with righties) who isnt estatic about the palin pick as far as it helping barrys chances

i personally love the pick
the problem is
i think mccain is gonna win
thus the pick pisses me off
because i dont want
someone with her positions
being another melanoma away from the white house
i can take a phrase thats rarely heard...flip it....now its a daily word

igy gettin it done like warrick

im the board pharmacist....always one step above yous

ATV

Sweet......

"If there has been a basis upon which you can pursue someone for a criminal violation, they will be pursued – not out of vengeance, not out of retribution, out of the need to preserve the notion that no one, no attorney general, no president -- no one is above the law."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/sep/03/uselections2008.joebiden