Political Hippo Circle Jerk - America, farg YEAH!

Started by PoopyfaceMcGee, December 11, 2006, 01:30:30 PM

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rjs246

Is rjs gonna have to choke a bitch?

Let them eat bootstraps.

PoopyfaceMcGee

Andrews can only be used in melee combat one person at a time, due to his depression issues.

If you understood depression, you'd understand why.

rjs246

I understand that I'm meaner on the internet than I am in person. I was taught that by someone who argues incessantly on the internet but is completely reserved in person.

I equal schooled.
Is rjs gonna have to choke a bitch?

Let them eat bootstraps.

Father Demon

Quote from: Cerevant on August 06, 2008, 06:42:56 AM
Despite media narrative, Obama leads by over 100 Electoral Votes.

Single polls are meaningless.
Tracking polls show public reaction to current news, and do not reflect the state of the race.

FiveThirtyEight.com (I never heard of it until you glowed about it) has the spread at 49.  That's quite a difference.
The drawback to marital longevity is your wife always knows when you're really interested in her and when you're just trying to bury it.

PoopyfaceMcGee

C'mon, Barack!  I got 10 bucks on you, bish!

Cerevant

Quote from: Father Demon on August 06, 2008, 10:36:08 AM
Quote from: Cerevant on August 06, 2008, 06:42:56 AM
Despite media narrative, Obama leads by over 100 Electoral Votes.

Single polls are meaningless.
Tracking polls show public reaction to current news, and do not reflect the state of the race.

FiveThirtyEight.com (I never heard of it until you glowed about it) has the spread at 49.  That's quite a difference.

Indeed - it will be very interesting to see how well his model works.  He is doing a much tighter analysis of the demographics and he weights pollsters based on past success.

On an unrelated note, it is interesting that McCain's strategy seems to be to create a constant stream of noise and choas - a new message every other day (true or not) - keeping Obama stuck on the defensive.  It is definitely preventing Obama from getting into stride and putting out a cohesive message.  It seems to be working in the short term, but I wonder how long he can keep this up without it getting stale.
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Geowhizzer

I'd look for Obama to come out with guns blazing at the Convention. 

This one's going to be closer that a lot of you hope, I think.  As of now, I think Obama wins, but it probably won't be by 100 electoral votes. 20-30 would be my guess.

Phanatic

I heard both candidates representatives talk about their energy policies this morning on talk of the nation. I have to say that I liked the content of McCain's message when I compared the two though they are very simular. The things I didn't like about Obama's message had to do with something they're calling a 'Windfall Tax'. Basically taxing the oil companies profits but making sure that they have enough to keep drilling and exploring. In a free market economy that sort of thing is counter intuitive and I just can't see it working. I'm no fan of the Big Oil companies but you don't want to break it either. Could be disasterous. Maybe someone can explain that to me better then the guy this morning. McCain is pro Nuke and wants to build 35-40 power plants across the country and fix Yuka mountain for disposal. I don't think that is a horrible idea but it has to be done right. I think these guys are still fleshing out their messages right now though.

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PoopyfaceMcGee

The thinking that big profits from big companies are fair game is simply a lie from the left always used to get elected.  They never actually end up putting those types of things in place, because they are inherently counter-intuitive to capitalism.

Father Demon

It's similar to the Lottery Lies.  Promising all that money for education, when all it does is allow current funding to be moved or cut completely.  I don't buy the oil profits for everyone thinking.
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Cerevant

I'm pro-nuke if done right, problem is that you need expensive infrastructure (approvals & audits) to do it right.  Instead of burying spent fuel, build some CANDU reactors that can run on spent fuel from light water reactors.  Yes, there is still waste, but you get a hell of a lot more work out of it.  Unfortunately, building nuke reactors isn't on the Democratic platform, and using foreign technology isn't on the Republican platform.

I feel like there is something inherently wrong when the people and therefore the government are in a panic about gas prices, yet the oil companies are making ever increasing profits.  If there was real competition, margins would be decreasing as vendors lowered prices to compete for the decreasing demand.  But the oil companies are not operating in a free market, and there is clearly price-fixing going on.  I don't know if a windfalls tax is the right solution, but someone has to slap the wrists of the oil companies for abusing their oligarchy position.

I expect Obama to really shift gears when he selects a VP.  If he doesn't start to pull away then, I worry that his campaign will peter out like it did against Hillary.
An ad hominem fallacy consists of asserting that someone's argument is wrong and/or he is wrong to argue at all purely because of something discreditable/not-authoritative about the person or those persons cited by him rather than addressing the soundness of the argument itself.

PoopyfaceMcGee

Quote from: Cerevant on August 06, 2008, 12:40:58 PM
I feel like there is something inherently wrong when the people and therefore the government are in a panic about gas prices, yet the oil companies are making ever increasing profits.  If there was real competition, margins would be decreasing as vendors lowered prices to compete for the decreasing demand.  But the oil companies are not operating in a free market, and there is clearly price-fixing going on.  I don't know if a windfalls tax is the right solution, but someone has to slap the wrists of the oil companies for abusing their oligarchy position.

It would be wiser to ensure those profits aren't going towards exploration and alternative source discovery before taxing the hell out of them.  Are CEO's getting caked off in big oil?  Hell yes, they are... but not much more than other companies, some of which are not making big profits.  So, if oligarchy/monopoly laws are being broken, or profits aren't being allocated in the best interests of forward-thinking energy capabilities, fix THAT.  But again, profit shouldn't be evil just because it's profit, and that is the contention of the Democratic platform.

Quote from: Cerevant on August 06, 2008, 12:40:58 PM
I expect Obama to really shift gears when he selects a VP.  If he doesn't start to pull away then, I worry that his campaign will peter out like it did against Hillary.

Um, he won, didn't he?

rjs246

Everyone here understands that the logical end result of a capitalistic economy is a collection of monolithic monopolies, right? Competition, mass production, economies of scale they all move towards a monopolistic model... just sayin'.
Is rjs gonna have to choke a bitch?

Let them eat bootstraps.

reese125

I love it when you talk dirty

Phanatic

They do and that is when regulation steps in to muck things up.... see the AT&T breakup fiasco of the 80's...
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