Government is Good

Started by Diomedes, August 02, 2007, 10:02:40 PM

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ice grillin you

make some money...invest...write shtein off...buy a second property...ect....

poor people can maybe use turbo tax the rest of us not so much


i cant even believe anyone would think there shouldnt be a tax hotline...the tax codes are incredibly complex
i can take a phrase thats rarely heard...flip it....now its a daily word

igy gettin it done like warrick

im the board pharmacist....always one step above yous

PoopyfaceMcGee

There absolutely should be a tax hotline with accessible help with this current system.  The point is that the system should be changed so that it's not so damn hard to figure out.

That said, Apple still has tech support.  Nothing's idiot-proof enough for this country.

General_Failure

I never said there shouldn't be a tax helpline. All I said was taxes are not as complicated as people would like to believe.

And I have done taxes with write-offs, investments, and property. Still not so complicated.

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Cerevant

Exactly my point - sorry, I forgot I have to spell it out:

I find it very difficult to say "Yay Government" in response to their providing a support for a tax system that is so needlessly complex that it needs a support system in the first place.
An ad hominem fallacy consists of asserting that someone's argument is wrong and/or he is wrong to argue at all purely because of something discreditable/not-authoritative about the person or those persons cited by him rather than addressing the soundness of the argument itself.

shorebird

Quote from: General_Failure on July 27, 2008, 12:31:22 PM
I never said there shouldn't be a tax helpline. All I said was taxes are not as complicated as people would like to believe.

And I have done taxes with write-offs, investments, and property. Still not so complicated.

It can't be too complicated. My tax lady makes over 100 bucks an hour during tax time, 'cause dumbasses like myself don't want to take the time to learn how to do it. It's a big enough pain in the ass keeping my ledger straight.

PoopyfaceMcGee

Public Libraries are possibly the best thing to come from tax money.

Diomedes

No shtein, I was at one today and watched a dude carrying out like ten books, as a different family was bringing back a stack of at least a half dozen.

I thought, farg yeah.  At least this still works for someone.
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ice grillin you

libraries really are awesome

to bad i dont read books
i can take a phrase thats rarely heard...flip it....now its a daily word

igy gettin it done like warrick

im the board pharmacist....always one step above yous

Father Demon

That's like a vegetarian giving us reviews on a tasty steak house.
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Diomedes

There is considerable overlap between the intelligence of the smartest bears and the dumbest tourists." - Yosemite Park Ranger

ATV

A day in the life of the self-made Joe Republican...

Joe gets up at 6:00am to prepare his morning coffee. He fills his pot full of good clean drinking water because some liberal fought for minimum water quality standards. He takes his daily medication with his first swallow of coffee. His medications are safe to take because some liberal fought to insure their safety and work as advertised.

All but $10.00 of his medications are paid for by his employers medical plan because some liberal union workers fought their employers for paid medical insurance, now Joe gets it too. He prepares his morning breakfast, bacon and eggs this day. Joe's bacon is safe to eat because some liberal fought for laws to regulate the meat packing industry.

Joe takes his morning shower reaching for his shampoo; His bottle is properly labeled with every ingredient and the amount of its contents because some liberal fought for his right to know what he was putting on his body and how much it contained. Joe dresses, walks outside and takes a deep breath. The air he breathes is clean because some tree hugging liberal fought for laws to stop industries from polluting our air. He walks to the subway station for his government subsidized ride to work; it saves him considerable money in parking and transportation fees. You see, some liberal fought for affordable public transportation, which gives everyone the opportunity to be a contributor.

Joe begins his work day; he has a good job with excellent pay, medicals benefits, retirement, paid holidays and vacation because some liberal union members fought and died for these working standards. Joe's employer pays these standards because Joe's employer doesn't want his employees to call the union. If Joe is hurt on the job or becomes unemployed he'll get a worker compensation or unemployment check because some liberal didn't think he should lose his home because of his temporary misfortune.

Its noon time, Joe needs to make a Bank Deposit so he can pay some bills. Joe's deposit is federally insured by the FSLIC because some liberal wanted to protect Joe's money from unscrupulous bankers who ruined the banking system before the depression.

Joe has to pay his Fannie Mae underwritten Mortgage and his below market federal student loan because some stupid liberal decided that Joe and the government would be better off if he was educated and earned more money over his life-time.

Joe is home from work, he plans to visit his father this evening at his farm home in the country. He gets in his car for the drive to dads; his car is among the safest in the world because some liberal fought for car safety standards. He arrives at his boyhood home. He was the third generation to live in the house financed by Farmers Home Administration because bankers didn't want to make rural loans. The house didn't have electric until some big government liberal stuck his nose where it didn't belong and demanded rural electrification. (Those rural Republican's would still be sitting in the dark)

He is happy to see his dad who is now retired. His dad lives on Social Security and his union pension because some liberal made sure he could take care of himself so Joe wouldn't have to. After his visit with dad he gets back in his car for the ride home.

He turns on a radio talk show, the host's keeps saying that liberals are bad and conservatives are good. (He doesn't tell Joe that his beloved Republicans have fought against every protection and benefit Joe enjoys throughout his day)  Joe agrees, "We don't need those big government liberals ruining our lives; after all, I'm a self made man who believes everyone should take care of themselves, just like I have".

rjs246

OH MY GOD I'VE NEVER SEEN THAT BEFORE!
Is rjs gonna have to choke a bitch?

Let them eat bootstraps.

ATV

I'm sorry. Before posting it, I should have asked everyone if they've already read it.

LBIggle

the hubble never ceases to amaze.  i'm glad they didn't kill it yet like they were originally planning on.

Seabiscuit36

im pretty sure that pic is god taking a poop towards earth
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