Political Hippo Circle Jerk - America, farg YEAH!

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PoopyfaceMcGee

Quote from: Cerevant on May 01, 2008, 09:40:49 AM
McCain will be toast once the democrats focus their full attention on him.

They might get around to that by November.  Might.

Phanatic

If Hillary gets the nomination it's pretty much equal as far as attackable history.
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PoopyfaceMcGee

Hillary takes credit for everything Bill did that was popular but deflects everything that people don't like.  She has very little actual "attackable" history, just like she has very little actual "experience."

rjs246

Quote from: Wingspan on May 01, 2008, 09:32:15 AM
After pulling for obama in the PA primary(being registered independent, i couldnt vote)...i dont think I want him to get the nomination anymore.

I am now leaning towards McCain... depending on who he selects as his running mate.

See, this I don't understand. Why? What has changed about McCain or Obama since last week? Nothing. We're all sick of hearing about Rev. Wright, but other than that the only thing that has changed is that Hillary won a state that everyone knew she would win.

Fickle.
Is rjs gonna have to choke a bitch?

Let them eat bootstraps.

ice grillin you

Quote from: FastFreddie on May 01, 2008, 10:11:04 AM
Hillary takes credit for everything Bill did that was popular but deflects everything that people don't like.  She has very little actual "attackable" history, just like she has very little actual "experience."


hillary has enough baggage from this years primaries to fill a grain silo...they dont even need to go back further than that...the problem is because obama has cornered himself in as the candidate of change and practices a new kind of politics he cant attack her as hard as he should or someone else would
i can take a phrase thats rarely heard...flip it....now its a daily word

igy gettin it done like warrick

im the board pharmacist....always one step above yous

Phanatic

The GOP propoganda machine has major wood over her getting the nomination because they've been attacking her for years. They say her name like it's a curse word half the time. It's going to get ugly early.
The Dems might be able to exploit the fact that McCain isn't "conservative" enough for his own party so I think it'll be down to the wire close.
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ice grillin you

Quote from: Phanatic on May 01, 2008, 10:41:50 AM
The GOP propoganda machine has major wood over her getting the nomination because they've been attacking her for years. They say her name like it's a curse word half the time. It's going to get ugly early.
The Dems might be able to exploit the fact that McCain isn't "conservative" enough for his own party so I think it'll be down to the wire close.


exactly...its why rush limbaugh gets his listeners to vote for hillary in open primaries
i can take a phrase thats rarely heard...flip it....now its a daily word

igy gettin it done like warrick

im the board pharmacist....always one step above yous

Cerevant

An ad hominem fallacy consists of asserting that someone's argument is wrong and/or he is wrong to argue at all purely because of something discreditable/not-authoritative about the person or those persons cited by him rather than addressing the soundness of the argument itself.

PhillyGirl

"Oh, yeah. They'll still boo. They have to. They're born to boo. Just now, they'll only boo with two Os instead of like four." - Larry Andersen

Wingspan

Quote from: rjs246 on May 01, 2008, 10:14:38 AM
Quote from: Wingspan on May 01, 2008, 09:32:15 AM
After pulling for obama in the PA primary(being registered independent, i couldnt vote)...i dont think I want him to get the nomination anymore.

I am now leaning towards McCain... depending on who he selects as his running mate.

See, this I don't understand. Why? What has changed about McCain or Obama since last week? Nothing. We're all sick of hearing about Rev. Wright, but other than that the only thing that has changed is that Hillary won a state that everyone knew she would win.

Fickle.

It has nothing to do with the Rev. Wright thing, at all. And I have been going back and forth on the whole thing for months, and honestly, I probably will not know who I will be voting for until I step in the voting booth.

I only lean in McCain's direction now because to me he comes off as the most straight forward one. Also, I think he will get more done since there are so many people on both the democrat and republican side that can agree with him.

The democrats all have the same idealistic theories in what they would like in their utopian country. But lets face it...there are a few things that will not change:

1) there will always be a lower class, and a level of unemployed in this country
2) Universal Healthcare is not going to happen. There is too much money tied into the insurance companies to even even begin to let an universal healthcare system take over.
3) The debate over global warming will not end, and there will always be environment damages done by every species on this planet. Your choice as an EARTH DWELLER is this. A) you pay less money, and waste more resources. or B) you pay a little more and extend the earths ability to sustain humans an extra 4 minutes.
4) We have a lot of soldiers in the middle east. To just up and pull them all out now is not going to work, there are going to be US soldiers there for a while.
5) The economy will bounce back at some point, regardless of who is president.

Strip those points out of any campaign speech and then see who is left standing, because that is what is going to make the next president a good president, not a bunch of well written or debated rhetoric that is said 500 times a day either by Rush Limbaugh or NPR.
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fansince61

I know Obama is running on "change" but what is he going to change?  Other than spending more money than any administration in history what/how is he going to change jack squat.  His adds say the oil companies are greedy but the government makes more /gallon of gas that the oil companies do... and THEIR GREEDY!  They bought the oil (with a week dollar because of deficit government spending), shipped it here, refined it and shipped to the dealer..the government did NOTHING but tax it.  He can raise taxes on the "rich" all he wants but the real rich..Kerry's, Kennedy's, Corsines, Gates, Edwards won't pay a dime extra.  They will just move there money to into a federal tax free shelter of some sort (remember the rich aren't stupid).  Look how the AMT tax worked out.  It didn't get the rich it soak the middle class.  If Obama spending plan is serious he must tax the middle class to pay for it.  He could however become the first leader to tax his people into prosperity.

ice grillin you

Quote from: fansince61 on May 01, 2008, 11:08:36 AM
I know Obama is running on "change" but what is he going to change?  Other than spending more money than any administration in history what/how is he going to change jack squat. 


he couldnt possibly spend more money than bush has...no one could

the iraq invasion alone costs like 12 BILLION a month


and mccain wants to stay there essentially forever
i can take a phrase thats rarely heard...flip it....now its a daily word

igy gettin it done like warrick

im the board pharmacist....always one step above yous

PhillyGirl

Quote from: ice grillin you on May 01, 2008, 11:15:27 AM
Quote from: fansince61 on May 01, 2008, 11:08:36 AM
I know Obama is running on "change" but what is he going to change?  Other than spending more money than any administration in history what/how is he going to change jack squat. 


he couldnt possibly spend more money than bush has...no one could

the iraq invasion alone costs like 12 BILLION a month

This.

And considering McCain wants to continue what is going on there....I don't see how that will change with him in office.
"Oh, yeah. They'll still boo. They have to. They're born to boo. Just now, they'll only boo with two Os instead of like four." - Larry Andersen

fansince61

Quote from: PhillyGirl on May 01, 2008, 11:16:16 AM
[And considering McCain wants to continue what is going on there....I don't see how that will change with him in office.

Staying in Iraq bankrupts the country in many ways.  can't afford to have Mccain win but it looks to me as Obama will bankrupt the country also :puke

Rome

mccain is a pandering piece of shtein but no more so than hillary.  if that bitch gets the nomination i'm voting for mccain myself because it would be a classic case of the lesser of two evils.  at least mccain had some measure of dignity at one point whereas hillary has always been an evil trolll.