Political Hippo Circle Jerk - America, farg YEAH!

[ice grillin you]

liberal principles are almost across the board superior to conservative

im sure they are one or two others but off the top of my head tax cuts if properly done  is about the only right wing issue that i can sometimes agree with

but that doesnt mean i couldnt work with certain people on the right and would be willing to meet in the middle on issues


the far right however can burn in hell

[Father Demon]

liberal principles are almost across the board superior to conservative

[ice grillin you]

hedging too much again?

[Father Demon]

no, now you're stupiding too much.

But you make me laugh, so you got that going for you...

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

tax cuts if properly done  is about the only right wing issue that i can sometimes agree with

Tax cuts "properly done" mean a reduction in spending and bureaucracy.  And not just Iraq War spending either.

[Phanatic]

Are conservative principles just tax cuts and less government?

What basic Liberal principles?

[hunt]

Vote by Race       Clinton       Obama
White                      62%   38%
African-American      11%   89%



Vote by Sex and Race   Clinton   Obama
White Men                      56%      44%
White Women                      66%      34%
Black Men                            7%      93%
Black Women                     13%      87%

goddamn racists...all of you.

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

Are conservative principles just tax cuts and less government?

What basic Liberal principles?

Fiscal conservatives are that simple, yes.  Not that we have significant representation in Washington anyway.

Basic Liberal principles include a larger Federal government providing greater levels of regulation, control, and support on both a business and personal level.

[phillymic2000]

I never can understand this attitude. Does this mean that true republican candidates can never work with a democrat or think they have a good idea or it's pandering? Isn't government about working with each other to accomplish something? Why is it that every problem has to be applied to one of two principles so called conservative or so called liberal across the board.

Do you really believe that conservative principles are appropriate for every problem? Same to the otherside. Are liberal principles the only answer?

No, in these days bipartisan is a key thing. The biggest concern was/is his stance on illegal immigration (illegal, not legal immigration) and the compromise him and our president agreed with the senate on. They broke the law anyway you look at it to get here and should not be rewarded for that imo, there are thousands who are trying to do it legaly and it isn't fair to them.

In Illinois I did vote for our Gov. Blago, cause I was/am tired of the Republican nonsense in this state, but that has turned out to be a disaster for this state right now. Also Denny Hastert was my rep before I moved and I voted against him last time he ran cause I feel he is a complete schmuck.

I am registered as a republican but I am growing tired of some of the nonsense. I just feel that McCain will do a better job the Hilary or Obama. I don't think we can just pull out of Iraq, we need to end it, but with a clear plan that the current president cannot produce or create. I am really interested in who he picks as his VP. with his age that may be our next pres. if something happens to McCain.

[Phanatic]

Reagan flat out pardoned millions of illegal immigrants. As long as America is the land of milk and honey that problem will never go away. Best case scenario is that you manage the problem somehow. Historically walls have never worked to keep people out or in and usually end up giving you a false sense of security.

I'm not saying you pardon all of them but you can't load up 4 million folks on trucks and drive them to the boarder either. But as with all of these issues both sides are naive in their positions and no one gets a sense of the real problem.

[Phanatic]

Also how does the principle of less government less taxes apply to immigration so that all republicans have to feel the same way about it exactly?

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

Also how does the principle of less government less taxes apply to immigration so that all republicans have to feel the same way about it exactly?

That's one of many issues where Republican and Conservative are two different things.

[Wingspan]

Reagan flat out pardoned millions of illegal immigrants. As long as America is the land of milk and honey that problem will never go away. Best case scenario is that you manage the problem somehow. Historically walls have never worked to keep people out or in and usually end up giving you a false sense of security.

I'm not saying you pardon all of them but you can't load up 4 million folks on trucks and drive them to the boarder either. But as with all of these issues both sides are naive in their positions and no one gets a sense of the real problem.

They should continue to be ignored. If not, your plates at bennigans, and your trash cans at work will never be emptied, which will lead to chaos, and anarchy.

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

The final tally is actually less than 9%: 54.3% to 45.7%.

NOT a double digit victory for Hillary, FWIW.

Back up to 54.6 to 45.4

Still, it's only double-digits if you round up on Hillary and down on Obama.


She gained about 200,000 in the popular vote, too.

[ice grillin you]

Also how does the principle of less government less taxes apply to immigration so that all republicans have to feel the same way about it exactly?

when it comes to farging with people they dont like the right is all about more govt