Political Hippo Circle Jerk - America, farg YEAH!

Started by PoopyfaceMcGee, December 11, 2006, 01:30:30 PM

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phattymatty

i don't see how you can't call it experience.  i don't even like her but she saw firsthand, for 8 years, exactly what the duties of the president are.

PoopyfaceMcGee

She missed the best part, though.  Bow chicka bowowoww.


Anyway...
QuoteThe latest Democratic numbers show Hillary Clinton with a 43% to 39% advantage over Barack Obama among Democratic voters nationwide. That 4-point lead is the narrowest since early January, and it is a continuation of gains by Obama. The impact of John Edwards' exit from the Democratic race is less clear. Wednesday night's numbers (the first with Edwards excluded from the ballot) show no clear indication that either candidate is benefiting disproportionately. Clinton and Obama will debate in California tonight, which could affect Democrats' support for the two candidates going into the weekend before Super Tuesday's primaries and caucuses.

PoopyfaceMcGee

Quote from: phattymatty on January 31, 2008, 03:31:10 PM
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on January 31, 2008, 03:28:27 PM
Your theory should read the 22nd Amendment.

And then have a bacon, lettuce and tomato sandwich.

No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice, and no person who has held the office of President, or acted as President, for more than two years of a term to which some other person was elected President shall be elected to the office of the President more than once.

Doesn't say anything about taking it over.  he wouldn't be elected.  at least that's how i read it.

Wikipedia agrees:

QuoteEligibility

The Twelfth Amendment to the United States Constitution requires the vice president to meet the same eligibility requirements as the president. That is, the vice president must be at least 35 years of age, have been born a citizen of the United States, and have been a resident of the U.S. for at least the 14 years preceding election.

It is unclear whether someone who has been twice elected to the presidency can subsequently be elected Vice President. The Twenty-second Amendment to the United States Constitution states that a person may not be elected to the presidency more than twice, but it does not rule out such a person subsequently becoming president by other means (for example through the line of succession). Additionally, the Twelfth Amendment to the United States Constitution states that no person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States. As no two-term president has subsequently sought the Vice-presidency, the question has never arisen.

There is no restriction on the number of terms a person can serve as Vice President - the limit only applies to the Presidency.

fansince61

Quote from: Jerome99RIP on January 31, 2008, 01:42:07 PM
One of the hungry hungry hippos in my office listens to Limbaugh and I was passing through his office just a while ago and heard him ranting about McCain.

If Rush is pissing and moaning about him, he must be scaring the shtein out of the cabal of freaks who run the GOP.

McCain = Bush     (but McCain has military record to be proud of)

I vote both parties but usually Rep. (small bus. owner).  I have been registered Rep for 40 years.  If McCain is GOP candidate I'm done and registering Independent

Guaranateed Prediction:  All the McCain lovers will say he's "to old" as soon as he gets nomination.  Everybody likes him cause it creates a liberal vs. liberal election

Rome

A President is limited to serving a maximum of two four-year terms.  The only way he can serve more is if he assumes the office two years and one day into the former president's term.

In essence he could serve 1 year and 364 days of the former president's term and then serve two consecutive terms in which he's been elected but once he's been elected to two full four year terms, that's it.  He can no longer serve.

A good example is Johnson.  He served the remainder of Kennedy's term, got elected in 1964 and then could have been re-elected in 1968.  But that's it.

Slick Willie is no longer eligible for the Presidency per the 22nd.

Phanatic

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Quote from: fansince61 on January 31, 2008, 04:35:29 PM
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on January 31, 2008, 01:42:07 PM
One of the hungry hungry hippos in my office listens to Limbaugh and I was passing through his office just a while ago and heard him ranting about McCain.

If Rush is pissing and moaning about him, he must be scaring the shtein out of the cabal of freaks who run the GOP.

McCain = Bush     (but McCain has military record to be proud of)

I vote both parties but usually Rep. (small bus. owner).  I have been registered Rep for 40 years.  If McCain is GOP candidate I'm done and registering Independent

Guaranateed Prediction:  All the McCain lovers will say he's "to old" as soon as he gets nomination.  Everybody likes him cause it creates a liberal vs. liberal election

No no no. McCain does not = Bush.
Huckabee = Bush.

McCain is conservative on some social issue like abortion but he agrees that it should be allowed for medical cases and rape. He also supports stem cell research somehow. He doesn't support the Bush tax cuts because they do not have spendiing limits attached to them like they did in the Reagan era. McCain is a very different animal altogether.

The Rush/Hannity/Countler triumbverate feel that all conservatives should feel the exact way they do on every issue. Major contention right now is with McCain's stance on immigration. In fact his departure from the party line is what won him Florida as he got a major part of the hispanic vote. He will also win California in this same way. I think he is the repulican candidate but he might have trouble winning when that phanatical division of the party stays home out of frustration.

Thompson was their candidate and now they're forced to throw their support behind Romney.
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Sgt PSN

Quote from: Jerome99RIP on January 31, 2008, 04:46:44 PM
Slick Willie is no longer eligible for the Presidency per the 22nd.

It would actually be a combo of the 22nd and 12th wouldn't it?  

The 22nd simply says that Clinton is no longer eligible to run for President but it doesn't actually disqualify him for running for VP.  

The 12th says that any person running for VP must be eligible to run for Prez (which Clinton is not).  


Rome

Slick doesn't think it's possible himself:

QuoteOn the Late Show with David Letterman, Bill Clinton discussed this scenario in regards to his running as VP for his wife.

    Letterman: Now there was a discussion last week, and there is I guess a greater discussion, and there's some confusion, and maybe I'm the only one confused about the eligibility of a man who has been elected twice as President to possibly be named later on the ticket as Vice President. Constitutionally speaking, can that happen?"

    Clinton: I don't believe so. There are some people who believe it can, and they have contorted readings of the amendment, the 22nd Amendment. But I believe as a matter of general interpretation, you're supposed to read all the Constitution including all the Amendments as if they were written almost on the same day at the same moment, so they're consistent with one another. And the Constitution says the qualifications for Vice President are the same as those for President. Now you can read that to mean 'to serve,' not 'to run for.' But I just don't believe it's consistent with the spirit of the Constitution for someone who's been President twice to be elected Vice President. I just don't think it's Constitutional. I don't think it's right and I wouldn't want to do that. I'd want to do whatever I could do to be of highest and best use for her, but there are lots of wonderful people out there, including all the people that are running this time would be good Vice Presidents. And, that's just not in the cards.

Whew.

ice grillin you

can you imagine being hillarys vice president under her and bill...talk about a meaningless position
i can take a phrase thats rarely heard...flip it....now its a daily word

igy gettin it done like warrick

im the board pharmacist....always one step above yous

fansince61

Hillary Presidency = Bill having "Megans Law Tracking" in 2 years :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D

PoopyfaceMcGee


rjs246

farging jesus. Yet another reason to hope Hillary dies screaming.
Is rjs gonna have to choke a bitch?

Let them eat bootstraps.

PoopyfaceMcGee

After last night's debate, here's where I am:

farg them all.

Obama's the best candidate but he's proposing the most spending and a lower income level on which to raise taxes.
I hate Hillary, but her platform is the most sound of all the candidates.
McCain is old and stupid, and who knows what he actually believes?
Romney is a slick piece of shtein, but he's also gone from moderate to super-neo-con, so WTF?


I'm voting for rjs and his thorough zombie-proof platform.

rjs246

It's an issue these other candidates simply aren't addressing adequately. Ignoring the problem won't make it go away.

(Wait for applause.)
Is rjs gonna have to choke a bitch?

Let them eat bootstraps.

Rome

I'm voting for rjs because I've met him and I know his name.