With the First Pick in the 2008 NFL Draft, the Philadelphia Eagles Select...

[Munson]

reno mahe to desean jackson would be an incredible upgrade RIGHT fargING NOW

i dont know what else you need to hear...youre just bringing up red herrings now to prove and unprovable point...that there are no players at 19 that can come right in and make an impact...and again desean jackson could be a better player in two years than david williams much less next year where he definitely would be more impactful


making arguments like "thats assuming hes good" is not elevating your already sub human intelligence on these matters

I don't remember saying that Jackson wouldn't be an upgrade right now.
But I do remember saying that his impact on the team RIGHT NOW,  as in the 2008 season, is about the same as any other guy they're going to draft at 19...as in it'll have little to no bearing on their chances for a Super Bowl win in '08. And is that not what this argument is about? The Eagles winning the Super Bowl RIGHT NOW?!?!/!?111

And Rome, I've said over and over that if they WANT TO MOVE UP to get an impact player like that, a guy who can come in and make such a difference that this team goes from mediocre NFC team to elite NFC team that can possibly somehow get lucky against whatever AFC team is in in 08, then okay. Go all out. Do it. Draft that guy, get Stallworth, get anotheer DE to pair with Cole, etc.

But if they're going to sit tight at 19, I have no problem with them planning for old tackles breaking down/the future protection of whoever the franchise's QB is. Because no one else they get at 19 this year will be that differerence maker that takes them all the way, unless they get lucky and get someone that plays way above expectations.

[Sgt PSN]

Tell me, genius... who do you see at pick #19 that would fulfill your desire to get a difference maker for this season?

Who can you draft at 19 that will make a difference?  Probably no one.  

Who can you get with the 19th pick that will make a difference?  Roy Williams, CJ or Fitzgerald.  

I'm with Rome and my Chocolate Knight, IGY on this one.  There are plenty of guys at 19 who can develope into players and be a good long term fix.  But the Eagles right now aren't in a position to really look at the long term.  Not with a 32 yr old McNabb, Runyan, Thomas and Dawkins on their last legs, Westbrook, Tito, Sheldon, Killa, Andrews in their prime.  So unless the plan is to blow it up and start from scratch, there's maybe 2 years that you can go after a SB with these guys.  

So instead of drafting someone who can make minor contributions now and develop into a player 2 years from now when half of the current team has either retired or is nearing retirement, use that pick as trade bait to get a farging playmaker who can not only make immediate big time contributions but is still young enough to contribute for the longterm.  

How awesome would it be to have a reciever like CJ, Williams or Fitz 3-5 years from now when Kolb or whoever the "QBOTF" is at that time?  Wouldn't it be great for the next young QB to have a stud reciever to throw the ball to from the get go?  Joe Montana (Taylor), Daunte Culpepper (Carter), Steve Young (Rice), Kurt Warner (Bruce) are just a few examples of rookie/young QB's who had some pretty amazing recievers to throw to when they first started out and benefited because of them.  

[Rome]

Picking a backup OT this year would be as idiotic as dropping down and picking up a backup quarterback was last year.

The end.

[Wingspan]

it makes sense if you arent worrying about winning next year or the year after...it also screams we farged up on justice and adds to their list of first day drafts busts

Exactamundo.

If they don't give a farg about winning next year then they should trade McNabb and start stocking up on the draft picks now.

If they're serious about being contenders next year then they should go balls out for one more run at it.  Sadly, what they'll likely do is a mixture of the two.  They'll draft for the future AND ignore the present because that's what they do.

And it's farging infuriating.

You don't need offensive tackles. It's science.

[ice grillin you]

it makes sense if you arent worrying about winning next year or the year after...it also screams we farged up on justice and adds to their list of first day drafts busts

Exactamundo.

If they don't give a farg about winning next year then they should trade McNabb and start stocking up on the draft picks now.

If they're serious about being contenders next year then they should go balls out for one more run at it.  Sadly, what they'll likely do is a mixture of the two.  They'll draft for the future AND ignore the present because that's what they do.

And it's farging infuriating.

You don't need offensive tackles in 2008 that arent going to play until 2009 or 2010 (if ever). It's science.

uh huh

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

You're all wrong, and I'm right.

[Sgt PSN]

If being right is wrong then I don't wanna be right. 

[rjs246]

I think you're all really special.

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

My original point is still correct.  Drafting an OT, if the Eagles believe he's the best player on the board, at #19 is not an indication of anything.  Not making any deals to get proven players in key positions IS an indication of something.

Basically, save your incessant sky is falling whining for the likely lack of movement in free agency and in the trade market and leave the draft alone.

No one they draft in 2008 will be the difference between winning the Super Bowl and not winning it.  I'm on record.

[Seabiscuit36]

11111

[ice grillin you]

No one they draft in 2008 will be the difference between winning the Super Bowl and not winning it.  I'm on record.

very few things get me more angry than this nonsensical argument as a way of defending the picks of the FO...no one they sign in free agency will be the difference btwn makign the superbowl and not...no one they trade for will be the difference btwn making the superbowl and not...but collectively these moves both in FA and the draft could make the difference...to treat a #1 draft pick as an afterthought and think its ok to draft a project back up lineman is beyond ridiculous

[SunMo]

My original point is still correct.  Drafting an OT, if the Eagles believe he's the best player on the board, at #19 is not an indication of anything.  Not making any deals to get proven players in key positions IS an indication of something.

i disagree with that...if they projected Winston Justice to be Jonathan Ogden for the next 6 years they wouldn't be taking a tackle at 19, if he was the best player on their board they would almost certainly trade down

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

no one they sign in free agency will be the difference btwn makign the superbowl and not...

I certainly didn't say that and certainly don't believe it either.  You're making shtein up to support your incessant need to bitch like a little girl about every single FO decision.

[ice grillin you]

no one they sign in free agency will be the difference btwn makign the superbowl and not...

I certainly didn't say that and certainly don't believe it either.  You're making shtein up to support your incessant need to bitch like a little girl about every single FO decision.

you said fifteen times that the draft is not going to do anything for this year thats its not iimportant for the here and now and that its all on free agency and trades

since the season has ended everyone from lurie to jim johnson has gone out of their way to tell the world how close they are and that they were one of the best teams at the end of the year and next year will be great things....and then they are gonna take david williams in the first round of the draft?...its a huge contradiction

if this was post 2003 season then i could go with the mentality that trading for a chad johnson would elevate you to the superbowl...but they were 8-8 not 12-4 coming off a conference championship game....they dont have the luxury to be wasting first round picks...unless of course like romey said youre going to rebuild and in that case dont tell us how good you are...instead get rid of mcnabb and begin the cobb era...sarge also pointed out the ages of many players and the guys like westbrook who are in their primes and about to go on the other side of the mountain...

tell me where the standout young talent is on this team...the kind of guys that are going to be taking this team deep into the playoffs in 3-4 years...its not there imo so why not go all out in the next year or two and try to win a championship...then start taking the david williams of the world in the first round

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

no one they sign in free agency will be the difference btwn makign the superbowl and not...

I certainly didn't say that and certainly don't believe it either.  You're making shtein up to support your incessant need to bitch like a little girl about every single FO decision.

you said fifteen times that the draft is not going to do anything for this year thats its not iimportant for the here and now and that its all on free agency and trades

Exactly.  Free agency and trades are where the differences are going to be made, so who gives a shtein if they're showing interest in an offensive tackle at #19?  If they haven't already traded the pick away for an impact player, they might as well take the player that they feel is the best to help out with depth at a position of need.