The Eagles Offseason Thread(all aboard the Brian Finneran bandwagon)

Started by The BIGSTUD, December 31, 2007, 03:37:55 AM

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ice grillin you

yeah i was gonna say you mean the chad johnson for chad johnson trade option?
i can take a phrase thats rarely heard...flip it....now its a daily word

igy gettin it done like warrick

im the board pharmacist....always one step above yous

MDS

Wait, why are we trading a guy who just came off a career year? He caught 60 balls. 60!
Zero hour, Michael. It's the end of the line. I'm the firstborn. I'm sick of playing second fiddle. I'm always third in line for everything. I'm tired of finishing fourth. Being the fifth wheel. There are six things I'm mad about, and I'm taking over.

rjs246

Is rjs gonna have to choke a bitch?

Let them eat bootstraps.

Cerevant

Quote from: reese125 on January 03, 2008, 01:23:55 PMDo some owners intentionally keep their teams from making the playoffs in order to have the greatest profit for a season?
No, because a successful team has better renewal rates for box leases, merchandise, etc.

QuoteDo some owners want their teams to make the playoffs, have some success, but not total success (Super Bowl winner) so they can improve their team's future long term value and minimize their playoff losses?
No, a super bowl team reaps tremendous $$ benefit.  The problem is that it is a high-risk, high return proposition.  The loser of the Super Bowl will make nowhere near as much.

QuoteDo some players put forth less effort in the playoffs since they only get paid a small fraction of their normal regular season salary?
No.  At the playoff level success is a personal matter, not a financial one.  Still, look at what one play in the Super Bowl did for Atwaan Randel-el's payday.

In short: a successful team with the occasional shot at the big prize is the sweet spot for the business side of professional sports.  Teams that suck don't make as much money.  Teams that aggressively pursue greatness spend a lot to get there. 
An ad hominem fallacy consists of asserting that someone's argument is wrong and/or he is wrong to argue at all purely because of something discreditable/not-authoritative about the person or those persons cited by him rather than addressing the soundness of the argument itself.

PoopyfaceMcGee

Quote from: MDS on January 03, 2008, 03:40:26 PM
Wait, why are we trading a guy who just came off a career year? He caught 60 balls. 60!

He also capped it off nicely with a glorious fumble into the end zone.
(I'm not even sure he ever had possession of that ball, by the way.)

Geowhizzer


ice grillin you

i can take a phrase thats rarely heard...flip it....now its a daily word

igy gettin it done like warrick

im the board pharmacist....always one step above yous

General_Failure

Quote from: Geowhizzer on January 03, 2008, 04:59:41 PM
Quote from: FastFreddie on January 03, 2008, 03:37:12 PM
Why bother?  They're basically the same player.

Chad Johnson dreams of being Reggie Brown.

Who hasn't had that nightmare? You're Reggie Brown and Joselio Hanson is chasing you around the shower. You slip, and he dives at you, and you wake up in a puddle of what you hope is sweat.

The man. The myth. The legend.

Munson

I'm okay with the WR's they have now...IF they stop passing the ball so much, aka run more, and upgrade the TE position.

None of which they will do so...sign a star #1 WR if you're going to pass so much.
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 01, 2008, 05:10:48 PM
perhaps you could explain sd's reasons for "disliking" it as well since you seem to be so in tune with other peoples minds

phillymic2000

Quote from: Munson on January 03, 2008, 07:27:22 PM
I'm okay with the WR's they have now...IF they stop passing the ball so much, aka run more, and upgrade the TE position.

None of which they will do so...sign a star #1 WR if you're going to pass so much.

they will not stop throwing the  ball, and our current WR's are not able to break against the elite defense's in the league. Heckert said he thinks this is a playoff team, farg you I want a super bowl team, the fargin skins are in the playoffs you dick. Do something and do it now damn it. Add a WR that people drop their jaws at ( i relize there is not much out there) But do something. 2004 our sb run we had that bastige who thrived in this pass happy enviroment. Get chad, get someone for the love of it.

MadMarchHare

Quote from: troyhstewart on January 03, 2008, 02:56:43 PM
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on January 03, 2008, 02:31:01 PM
Did someone mention arrogance and condescension?

QuoteI hope for Tom's sake that he gets the job. But I don't want him to leave. And any of you who do truly don't know what the heck you are talking about.

Nahhhhhhhhhhh!   :-D

I'd like to see Fat Andy give up all power in decisons on personnel.  I'd like to see Tom with final say for a couple drafts.

And Spikes can go for all I care, he was solid against the run, but nothing special.

I'd like to see Andy Reid standing in a line to collect cheddar cheese with "US Welfare" stamped on it.
Anyone but Reid.

SD_Eagle5

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QuoteTwo prominent receivers expected to seek trades
   By Adam Schefter  |  NFL Network



Wide receivers know how to produce big catches and lingering storylines.

The next two could be coming out of Cincinnati and Denver, where Bengals wide receiver Chad Johnson and Broncos wide receiver Javon Walker are expected to try to seek trades.

Cincinnati sounds far less open to dealing its wide receiver than Denver.


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Two years removed from a trade request that sent Javon Walker from Green Bay to Denver, the receiver could demand another such move this off-season.

Since last season, when the grumblings about Johnson's future first began, the Bengals have been adamant about refusing to trade the receiver who set the franchise record this season for receiving yardage.

However, a showdown is looming in Cincinnati, where few of the Bengals are happy with the way this past season went and some, including Johnson, could opt to seek their exit.

For starters, Johnson and Palmer did not connect the way they did in other seasons. Also, the Bengals are expected to try to retain Pro Bowl wide receiver T.J. Houshmandzadeh, who has one year remaining on his contract. Should the two sides come to the agreement that many expect, it could send Johnson back to the bargaining table to rework a six-year, $35.5 million contract extension he signed in April 2006.

However it plays out, sources close to the situation insist that the Bengals have not heard the last from Johnson this off-season. The story is just beginning.

As for Walker, Denver will look to deal him in the coming months. The Broncos are reluctant to pay Walker the $5.4 million option bonus payment due to him. Denver surrendered a second-round pick to Green Bay two years ago and since then, Walker has battled injuries and controversy, the most recent coming Sunday when he said he didn't want to return to Denver for next season.

Now Denver will seek to find a new home for Walker.

Teams in the market for free-agent wide receivers could choose from Oakland's Jerry Porter, New England's Jabar Gaffney or New Orleans' David Patten, among others. But rather than signing a free-agent wide out, teams could decide to trade for one.

At least one, and possibly two, will be available.

Munson

Quote from: ice grillin you on April 01, 2008, 05:10:48 PM
perhaps you could explain sd's reasons for "disliking" it as well since you seem to be so in tune with other peoples minds

Yeti

Get Trotter and Detmer back.  Everything went to shtein when they left.
"It's only a matter of time before we get to the future."

Hbionic

SD_Eagle5

Eskin's reporting Heckert will be offered the Atlanta job. I think he goes, what's the use in interviewing if you're not planning on taking the job. Plus, I'm sure he's being promised full run of the franchise which he'll never get here.