The Sopranos

[MDS]

She is polling close to 50% these days, not including Al Gore (who won't run).

[Rome]

She picked a Celine Dion tune for her campaign song?  Maybe someone should have mentioned to Hillary that she's not running for the Presidency of Canada?

[PhillyPhreak54]

I'd love to see the ending where she gets capped

Arlen Specter is cooking up the next blasphemous theory for whatever commission is appointed if Hillary gets capped when/if elected.

[PoopyfaceMcGee]

Closure!

[SD]

I finally finished the Sopranos. Overall it was a good show that was sometimes great and sometimes mediocre. Aside from Tony I didn't like many of the other characters on the show. I was hoping Carmella would get knocked off because her character annoyed the shtein out of me. Didn't really like season 6 or the finale episode, but I thought the final scene was brillant. I can just imagine all the hardcore Sopranos fans flipping out when the screen went to black, because people need such immediate justification of what's on screen without giving the scene any thought. Just from a basic film class I had I was left with the interpretation that he was dead. When they show Tony, then show his POV of watching people walking into the restaurant, then the last scene when the POV was to be shown of Meadow walking in it went to black...harkening back on the conversation that he and Bobby had on the boat.

[PhillyPhreak54]

I was pissed when they ended it like that - looking back, I agree with you - it was brilliant.

He got capped.

But when it went down I and many others thought that the farging cable went out.

[MDS]

it wasnt brilliant, it was stupid and arrogant. contextually it made sense given thematically the kinds of things chase did but its a god damn mob drama. if hes dead then show him dead. dont get all ambigious in the final seconds just to piss off the audience.

Aside from Tony I didn't like many of the other characters on the show. I was hoping Carmella would get knocked off because her character annoyed the shtein out of me.

also lol @ this

tony was a disgusting animal of a person, as was pretty much every single character on that show. but hes cool and the woman isnt. himmm.

[SD]

it wasnt brilliant, it was stupid and arrogant. contextually it made sense given thematically the kinds of things chase did but its a god damn mob drama. if hes dead then show him dead. dont get all ambigious in the final seconds just to piss off the audience.

The 'cut to black' is him being shown as dead. Again, look at what the camera was doing before the cut to black. It showed him then his POV, like 4 or 5 times in a row, then as Meadow walks in his POV is now nothing because he's dead. Add that in with his and Bobby's conversation on the boat and I don't think there's much to interpret or why anyone would say it was 'stupid and arrogant'. That ending was a trillion times better then them showing the guy with the Members only jacket walking out of the bathroom and capping him. That ending would have been completely lame and conformed with the mindless idiots who only interpreted the show on the surface.

[Rome]

The show was deliberately infuriating.  The ending simply continued in that longstanding tradition.   Pinheads like those here who didn't understand or accept that never will.

We move on...

[MDS]

it wasnt brilliant, it was stupid and arrogant. contextually it made sense given thematically the kinds of things chase did but its a god damn mob drama. if hes dead then show him dead. dont get all ambigious in the final seconds just to piss off the audience.

The 'cut to black' is him being shown as dead. Again, look at what the camera was doing before the cut to black. It showed him then his POV, like 4 or 5 times in a row, then as Meadow walks in his POV is now nothing because he's dead. Add that in with his and Bobby's conversation on the boat and I don't think there's much to interpret or why anyone would say it was 'stupid and arrogant'. That ending was a trillion times better then them showing the guy with the Members only jacket walking out of the bathroom and capping him. That ending would have been completely lame and conformed with the mindless idiots who only interpreted the show on the surface.

i know hes dead

all im saying is i dont want to have to think about it. this is a television show and its not the wire.

[SD]

we need russell in this conversation

[rjs246]

I liked the Sopranos but I'm just not sure that we've talked about it enough. Here's hoping for 47 more pages of in-depth analysis of a farging tv show.

[SD]

now the circle is complete

[Zanshin]

I realize that this is a carryover thought from The Wire thread...but I cannot justify getting all worked up over a TV series, good, bad or indifferent...other than to note that it was good, bad or indifferent. Then again, I have a hard time getting worked up about much.

The Sopranos was good, mostly. And I haven't thought about it in years.

[ice grillin you]

this is a slight oversimplification but the sopranos died with big Hoyda....the show was still good after him and sometimes great but it never reached the heights it did when he was around