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[crabby102]

romey does spadaro pay you in training camp cocktails to go after this guy?

He can come after me all he wants.  He knows he is wrong, has been all along.  He has admitted to not really unstanding or caring about the issue.  And he stated he is a scared wittle boy that they might revoke his seats.

Once you get past the name calling and personal attacks, he has very little to offer.  But he's worth a few yucks.

[SunMo]

no such thing as karma...if so, i'd been dead long ago

[crabby102]

no such thing as karma...if so, i'd been dead long ago

You may have a higher calling.......

[Beermonkey]

how easy would it be for the eagles
to go on razorgator/ebay/stubhub ect
get the seat locations of these blocks
or any ticket that is found to be for sale for greater than 50% of the eagle games
and take them away from the account holder
then offer them to the "waiting list"

EXACTLY THE POINT.  THANK YOU.  It would be very easy.  They choose not to and it has to be because they are getting a kickback.  What other possible reason could it be?  Why wouldn't they want local fans using the tickets?  It can't be that hard to track down the owner of an entire row of tickets, or 12 in the same row.  Plus, how did one person actually even get 12 to 20 tickets together?

I'm not defending why they don't do it, but what NFL team does police secondary ticket sales? You can't say Washington either. Did the majority of teams police scalping before the advent of sites like Stubhub? If not, were they getting kickbacks then? Before you insult me, it's something I wish they would do.

Razorgator does not own the seats for sale on their site. Razorgator is just a tool to be used by scalpers like you. Why some person or business entity would have a block of of 10+ has been answered several times already, yet you ignore it, since it doesn't fit your agenda. Ticket/travel agencies, brokers & businesses have owned large blocks of seats long before the Linc was built. These same entities still have those blocks and are most likely responsible for what you are seeing. Why don't you investigate who has them first instead of making blind assumptions & expecting the AG to step in.

PS  - I like what you are doing, though I think you may be focusing on the wrong problem.

[crabby102]

Why some person or business entity would have a block of of 10+ has been answered several times already, yet you ignore it, since it doesn't fit your agenda. Ticket/travel agencies, brokers & businesses have owned large blocks of seats long before the Linc was built. These same entities still have those blocks and are most likely responsible for what you are seeing. Why don't you investigate who has them first instead of making blind assumptions & expecting the AG to step in.

Large blocks being scalped by whoever for every game should be revoked.  End of statement.  I haven't ignored anything.  I understand how some may have gotten their seats.  But entire rows?  And if they are selling them for every game on RazorGator, they aren't ticket and travel agencies.

I have been investigating and have more information than you.  Its not up to me to prove anything.  Its up to the public via the media to point it out and correct it.  I owe you nothing.  You are also DEAD WRONG and RG not owning any of the tickets.  You assumed that RazorGator does not own any of the seats on its site.  Why would you do that?  Banner himself last year said they get tickets just like every other sponsor.  HOW MANY TICKETS IS THE QUESTION?

You also cannot contact the owners of the tickets or even see where they are from, so suggesting to contact them is not real.

I am dead on with my target.  Get the Eagles under pressure for scalping their tickets, have them stop and have them move them to local fans.  You will see whe the article comes out.  The Hoffman article was just a first step to get Banner to go on the record. 

[ice grillin you]

but what NFL team does police secondary ticket sales?

Why some person or business entity would have a block of of 10+ has been answered several times already, yet you ignore it, since it doesn't fit your agenda. Ticket/travel agencies, brokers & businesses have owned large blocks of seats long before the Linc was built.

who cares if other teams turn a blind eye to this...why is that an issue?

besides other teams dont have their gestapo mouthpiece in the paper twice a year...bragging about how hard it is to get eagle tickets while his front office watches and is in bed with a place that sells bunches of tickets at insane mark ups....its just amazing that those two things can happen and people dont seem to care all that much

and why also does it matter who owns the tickets and why or how they have a whole row

i dont care if they are blocks of tickets or single pairs
if game after game your tickets are showing up on razorgator
or any other place
then you lose them
period

this isnt rocket science


note* - i would however attach a realistic % over face value that you would be allowed to sell them at (that % can be fairly determined)

[Cerevant]

As I have stated before, I do not have a problem with scalpers.  I buy from them all the time.  I have a problem with the Eagles not revoking the seats that are scalped and not selling them to local fans who would use them.

BOYCOTT ALL SCALPERS EAGLES FANS.  IF WE ARE DUMB ENOUGH TO KEEP FUNDING THEM WE WILL NEVER GET RID OF THEM.  ITS LIKE FEEDING THE PIGEONS.

The more the scalpers lose the faster we get rid of every one of those a-holes and free tickets up for the fans.

I can think of one a-hole scalper I'd like to get rid of.

Hey skippy, if you are bored with the topic, why do you read and post.  You always have the option of moving on.  Didn't think of that did you?

I'm not bored with the topic, I'm bored with you.  You know it is rough when I'm agreeing with IGY, but at least he is coherent.

[Seabiscuit36]

Why some person or business entity would have a block of of 10+ has been answered several times already, yet you ignore it, since it doesn't fit your agenda. Ticket/travel agencies, brokers & businesses have owned large blocks of seats long before the Linc was built. These same entities still have those blocks and are most likely responsible for what you are seeing. Why don't you investigate who has them first instead of making blind assumptions & expecting the AG to step in.

Large blocks being scalped by whoever for every game should be revoked.  End of statement.  I haven't ignored anything.  I understand how some may have gotten their seats.  But entire rows?  And if they are selling them for every game on RazorGator, they aren't ticket and travel agencies.

I have been investigating and have more information than you.  Its not up to me to prove anything.  Its up to the public via the media to point it out and correct it.  I owe you nothing.  You are also DEAD WRONG and RG not owning any of the tickets.  You assumed that RazorGator does not own any of the seats on its site.  Why would you do that?  Banner himself last year said they get tickets just like every other sponsor.  HOW MANY TICKETS IS THE QUESTION?

You also cannot contact the owners of the tickets or even see where they are from, so suggesting to contact them is not real.

I am dead on with my target.  Get the Eagles under pressure for scalping their tickets, have them stop and have them move them to local fans.  You will see whe the article comes out.  The Hoffman article was just a first step to get Banner to go on the record. 

This guy goes from 0-100 in 2 seconds.  Tony, your an icehole who wants attention, you just won't admit it.  We all hate the current policy and hope it changes.  I've been on the list since the beginning, what bothers me is if there is no order to the list than why the farg did i sign up for it?  Good luck with your crusade, just stop visting here unless you have news about changes.

[Beermonkey]

Large blocks being scalped by whoever for every game should be revoked.  End of statement.  I haven't ignored anything.  I understand how some may have gotten their seats.  But entire rows?  And if they are selling them for every game on RazorGator, they aren't ticket and travel agencies.

Wrong, why wouldn't a ticket agency or broker put up all their seats? I used to deal with a company called Wanamaker Tickets that had over a 100 seats at the Vet & when they Linc was built, had to pay out over a million for PSLs. When I lived outside Philly I used to come to games through Martz bus tours, who owned about 50-100 seats. Why wouldn't they sell any unused blocks on RG?

I have been investigating and have more information than you.  Its not up to me to prove anything.  Its up to the public via the media to point it out and correct it.  I owe you nothing.  You are also DEAD WRONG and RG not owning any of the tickets.  You assumed that RazorGator does not own any of the seats on its site.  Why would you do that?  Banner himself last year said they get tickets just like every other sponsor.  HOW MANY TICKETS IS THE QUESTION?

If you are going to be the caped ticket-scalping crusader that you envision yourself as, yeah, you are going to need to prove something instead of making superficial assumptions. Listing the seat locations of tickets that are routinely scalped proves nothing. Your arguments are appealing to the emotions of disgruntled fans who can't get seats & offer very little hard facts. Anything you say to a reporter would be used anyway, as it's those emotions that sell papers.

Yes, I also agree that Banner needs to address many of these fan concerns.

I never said that RG doesn't OWN tickets, so don't try to twist it.  RG gets tickets like any other company that buys advertising. Whether they get more than a normal advertiser is something a sleuth like you should be able to find out. I was trying to clear up the misconception that the tickets on that site are the property of RG. It's like arguing that since so many Beanie Babies are sold on E-bay, E-bay is trying to manipulate the hot Beanie Baby market. It's a tool used by the scalpers listing them.

You also cannot contact the owners of the tickets or even see where they are from, so suggesting to contact them is not real.

You can if you purchase them, as you will see who they are coming from. I got to be friendly with the guy who I first bought them from on RG, so he then sold them to me directly for the rest of the season, to avoid any handling charges.

[crabby102]

I'm not bored with the topic, I'm bored with you.  You know it is rough when I'm agreeing with IGY, but at least he is coherent.

Beat it, loser.  This is way, way above your apparent education level.

[SunMo]

If you are going to be the caped ticket-scalping crusader that you envision yourself as

[Beermonkey]

who cares if other teams turn a blind eye to this...why is that an issue?

besides other teams dont have their gestapo mouthpiece in the paper twice a year...bragging about how hard it is to get eagle tickets while his front office watches and is in bed with a place that sells bunches of tickets at insane mark ups....its just amazing that those two things can happen and people dont seem to care all that much

and why also does it matter who owns the tickets and why or how they have a whole row

i dont care if they are blocks of tickets or single pairs
if game after game your tickets are showing up on razorgator
or any other place
then you lose them
period

this isnt rocket science


note* - i would however attach a realistic % over face value that you would be allowed to sell them at (that % can be fairly determined)

I want this as much as you, so don't think I'm for the current policy. I'm just saying that there may be considerations that you & I are unaware of blocking a team from doing it. Maybe not, we just can't be sure.

This is the specific problem that crabby needs to focus on instead of pursuing his Razor Gator conspiracy theory. It's the people scalping the tickets, not the tool they are using to do it.

[crabby102]

I never said that RG doesn't OWN tickets, so don't try to twist it. 

"Razorgator does not own the seats for sale on their site", your words.

I will keep you informed and give you a heads up when the articles will run.

[Cerevant]

Can you explain why you come to this site spouting anti-scalper rhetoric, then claim that you don't care about scalpers and that you are one yourself?

[Beermonkey]

I never said that RG doesn't OWN tickets, so don't try to twist it. 

"Razorgator does not own the seats for sale on their site", your words.

I will keep you informed and give you a heads up when the articles will run.

Can you prove that they are selling the tickets given to them as an advertising partner? No, you can't. My statement stands.

Even if they sold some of them, how it that any different than a rep from Chrysler/Jeep or any other ad sponsor dumping unused seats.