U.S. Iraq war casualties reach new milestone

Started by Diomedes, February 08, 2006, 09:00:29 AM

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SD_Eagle5

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I think we passed that last October

Drunkmasterflex

Quote from: SD_Eagle on March 16, 2007, 02:56:10 PM
Quote from: Phanatic on March 16, 2007, 02:51:30 PM
The Iraq 'War' was once supported by 70% of the people.... funny how poor planning and mismanagement change things.

The initial war was strategically planned great, the U.S. overthrew Iraq in 2 weeks, found Hussein etc. Everything that followed was poorly planned by a small group with their own agenda. People initially supported the war out of fear.

I don't think that people supported the war out of fear, I think most thought it was a good cause.  Getting rid of Hussein and his henchmen.  I agree though that everything that has followed has been poorly planned. 

As far as training I agree with Phanatic, the military was very well trained for the first part of the war.  As far as it is now, I don't know.  Sometimes we train with tactics that will be very helpful for this type of police action and other times we train with tactics that are for traditional warfare i.e. WWII.  It is quite frustrating at times. It often seems that we still haven't learned our lessons from Vietnam.
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SD_Eagle5

Quote from: Drunkmasterflex on March 16, 2007, 03:25:36 PM

I don't think that people supported the war out of fear, I think most thought it was a good cause. 

I doubt most Americans that didn't have money invested in oil gave two shteins about invading Iraq. The American people supported the war because of the threat of WMDs. Colin Powell was pretty convincing. Add to that they put a seed in peoples heads that Iraq/Hussein had something to do with 9/11 (There are still people who believe that, which is pretty ignorant and semi-racist thinking IMO)

PoopyfaceMcGee

I even supported finishing up business with Hussein.  But he was captured quite some time ago and is now dead, so they're quite past the statute of limitations on that one.

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Phanatic

Quote from: Drunkmasterflex on March 16, 2007, 03:25:36 PM
Quote from: SD_Eagle on March 16, 2007, 02:56:10 PM
Quote from: Phanatic on March 16, 2007, 02:51:30 PM
The Iraq 'War' was once supported by 70% of the people.... funny how poor planning and mismanagement change things.

The initial war was strategically planned great, the U.S. overthrew Iraq in 2 weeks, found Hussein etc. Everything that followed was poorly planned by a small group with their own agenda. People initially supported the war out of fear.

I don't think that people supported the war out of fear, I think most thought it was a good cause.  Getting rid of Hussein and his henchmen.  I agree though that everything that has followed has been poorly planned. 

As far as training I agree with Phanatic, the military was very well trained for the first part of the war.  As far as it is now, I don't know.  Sometimes we train with tactics that will be very helpful for this type of police action and other times we train with tactics that are for traditional warfare i.e. WWII.  It is quite frustrating at times. It often seems that we still haven't learned our lessons from Vietnam.

Yeah I really think the US fighting force should train to kick ass and stick with that. Anyone wants to deploy troops should know that they're going to kick ass and not half ass anything. If you can't stomach that leave the troops at home. Break glass only in case of emergancies.
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Diomedes

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Just read the other day that as many as 800 mercenaries have been killed as well.  They make up the second largest foreign force in Iraq, larger than England's troop contigent.  Working for Blackwater, Halliburton, etc...they are being paid U.S. taxpayer money to fight outside the law, making upwards of 150 per year right alongside army soldiers pulling in a fraction of that.  Most are American, but there are a lot of Brits and South Africans working as mercenaries too.

What a farging mess.
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PoopyfaceMcGee

Question:  Which Democratic candidate would be the best choice for the quickest and most thorough withdrawal of forces from Iraq?  I'd say Kucinich, but what about candidates with a chance to win...?

Diomedes

With a chance to win?  I guess Obama.  But you're offering a false choice.  None of them have much of a plan at all, or the balls to bring one off if they did.

The answer is Kucinich.
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Sgt PSN

Quote from: Diomedes on March 22, 2007, 10:04:25 AM
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Just read the other day that as many as 800 mercenaries have been killed as well.  They make up the second largest foreign force in Iraq, larger than England's troop contigent.  Working for Blackwater, Halliburton, etc...they are being paid U.S. taxpayer money to fight outside the law, making upwards of 150 per year right alongside army soldiers pulling in a fraction of that.  Most are American, but there are a lot of Brits and South Africans working as mercenaries too.

What a farging mess.

I was contemplating taking one of those merc jobs for a little while.  Just doing it for a year and banking about 120 grand......all tax free.  I'd say probably close to 90% of the people doing those jobs are prior military and the rest likely have some sort of police/law enforcement background.  

I've decided against doing it now, but it's still on the back burner just incase.  

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Diomedes

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The average deaths per day is 2.4 for the whole war (call it 48 months).  The last month in which the average death toll per day was less than the average for the whole war was August 2006.   Seven and a half months straight of higher than normal casualties...so yeah, things are gettting better aren't they Mr. McCain?

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