Donte' Stallworth

Started by BigSaint8050, November 07, 2006, 09:44:31 PM

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Quote from: ice grillin you on March 08, 2007, 03:16:49 PM
The team can't "pull the tag" if the player signs the franchise tender

youre brilliant...if someone signs the tender then there is no tag...if the player doesnt sign it then the team can pull it anytime they want

Well you throw it around like the team has all the power - the player knows they either have to play under the tag or risk waiting until the end of free agency.  The team isn't tagging the player to lower their value, because if the player signs the tender, they are stuck with them.
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ice grillin you

the team does have all the power...they have all the options...its their choice to use the tag at all...and if they do its a win win...its a one year deal which doesnt effect their cap long term...they get multiple first rounders if the player is signed by another team or if the player doesnt sign they can yank it whenever they want if they dont wanna pay it

the eagles slapped the tag on trotter even tho he told them he wouldnt sign it and they had no intention of keeping him...they waited over a month into free agency to release him and they did it for no other reason than to hurt his market value...luckily for trotter dan snyder exists

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Father Demon

CBA.

Players don't like that tag?  Take it up with Upshaw.
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ice grillin you

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igy gettin it done like warrick

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troyhstewart

1 year/1.5 mill is a joke, if it's true.

methdeez

Quote from: King Cole on March 08, 2007, 02:36:24 PM
PFT.com says the Eagles made an offer of 1 year 1.5 million to Stallworth and that the Niners are now interested in him.
Wasn't he already offered like a 6 year deal?
Why would they even throw that out there, to piss him off?

Father Demon

There is some serious misinformation floating around. 

Exhibit A. Stallworth receives a 6 year deal for $32M with an annual favorite to win the Super Bowl, with one of two guys I would rather have at quarterback than McNabb.  He tells them "Hold on to that..  I'll be back."
Exhibit B. Stallworth visits the Titans, who tell him "Thanks, we'll be in touch."  Oops..  nope -- they reportedly offered him a deal.
Exhibit C. Eagles submit a one year deal for $1.5M.  No comment from the Rosenhaus camp.
Exhibit D. 49ers have spent a fools ransom on FA's this week, yet have interest in Stallworth. He is flying out to visit with them.

Here's my completely unfounded opinion on what is going on.

NE made a 1 year offer to Stallworth, but Rosenhaus "leaks" a 6 year deal to get other teams to pony up.  This would piss off the NE FO, because if he signs there for less than 6 years, it looks like they reneged on the deal, and Rosenhaus will look foolish for not getting Stallworth to take the deal.  Result? Stallworth does NOT sign with NE, because both sides would look bad.  Tennessee knows the truth, because they are talking with the NFL offices.  they, too, offer a one year deal for similar, if not slightly more money.  Philly sees what's going on, and says "shtein, we can do a one-year deal." They offer slightly less than the others, thinking they'll get a home town discount.  All of the sudden, San Francisco seeing that this cat is only going to get a one year deal somewhere, figures there is minimum cap hit if they can sign him for a year, so they throw their hat into the ring.

Result? Stallworth signs with either Tennessee, because out of all the one year deals being offered, they are paying the most.  OR, he re-signs with Philly for the one year deal taking slightly less money, because Stallworth figures he can show off the best with McNabb, who is the best quarterback option he has out of Philly, Tennessee, and San Francisco.  NE is completely out of the picture now.
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Quote from: troyhstewart on March 08, 2007, 09:12:56 PM
1 year/1.5 mill is a joke, if it's true.

It's a $365,000 raise over what he made in 2006.

I wish someone would "insult" me with that kind of bump.

:'(

Geowhizzer

Quote from: Jerome99RIP on March 08, 2007, 09:32:13 PM
Quote from: troyhstewart on March 08, 2007, 09:12:56 PM
1 year/1.5 mill is a joke, if it's true.

It's a $365,000 raise over what he made in 2006.

I wish someone would "insult" me with that kind of bump.

:'(

Forget the bump, I'd take the $365,000.  8)

ice grillin you

OR, he re-signs with Philly for the one year deal taking slightly less money, because Stallworth figures he can show off the best with McNabb, who is the best quarterback option he has out of Philly, Tennessee, and San Francisco.  NE is completely out of the picture now.

haha why is new england out of the picture...because you know theres no way in hell hes signing a 1 year deal with the eagles over new england?

hes either signing with the one team that offers a monster deal a deal that easily beats all others...or hes signing with new england
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Father Demon

I said it because I don't believe it was a 6 year deal.  It was Rosenhaus leaking it was.  If it was truly a 6 year deal, and he's still looking and only seeing one year deals out there, he's a fool for not grabbing it this second, and NE is a foiol for keeping it on the table.  I think once he told them to hold while he continues looking, they take the large offer back.

Like I said, all of my completely unfounded thoughts.  It's nothing more than that.
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shorebird

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It's all bullcrap. 1.5 mil??? It's hard to believe anything reported after reading that.

Even if he was suspended for four games, he's worth more than 1.5 mil.

Feva

I'm sorry... I flat out refuse to believe the Eagles offered Stallworth a 1 year $1.5 million deal.  NO ONE in that position could be THAT stupid.
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