The 2007 Offseason Thread

ice grillin you · February 09, 2007, 06:32:02 AM

what has Gruden done that Reid hasn't?

beaten reids ass four out of the five times theyve gone head to head...including the infamous last game ever at the vet...including games where both teams were good AND when grudens team sucked and reids

won a superbowl...in fact gruden is so good he took a team to the superbowl that another guy who just won a superbowl couldnt...and then in that superbowl he played against his own team in the raiders...he played HIMSELF in the superbowl!!!...reid never done that...he went up against a coach that knew him better than anyone else in the world and he came out on top

anyone that would even try to defend reid over gruden is so far up the eagles behinds its not even funny...sometimes you guys are pure comedy....

lol @ phreak rather having rivera than gruden

General_Failure · February 09, 2007, 07:38:37 AM

Gruden's a joke. You can try to shine that turd, but he still gets credit for taking Dungy's defense to the superbowl and then dismantling the entire franchise while blaming others.

ice grillin you · February 09, 2007, 07:56:24 AM

fine hes a terrible coach...then what does that make andy....i cant imagine what you think about him if you think gruden is a turd

i find it funny that dungy used to get killed for not being able to win with the bucs....and now gruden gets killed for only winning because he had dungys team

General_Failure · February 09, 2007, 08:10:18 AM

Quote from: ice grillin you on February 09, 2007, 07:56:24 AM
fine hes a terrible coach...then what does that make andy

A really bad coach who gets beaten by a terrible coach every single time.

ice grillin you · February 09, 2007, 08:14:36 AM

makes sense

PhillyPhreak54 · February 09, 2007, 09:04:12 AM

I just don't like Gruden or the way he runs his offense. I've felt he was terribly overrated because he's "fiery" and makes those faces that the cameras just love to catch.

So what if he's beaten Reid? The majority of those losses to TB were because of Monte Kiffin's defense and that little bastich Ronde Barber.

PoopyfaceMcGee · February 09, 2007, 09:08:11 AM

Monte Kiffin > Jim Johnson with teh bigness.

SunMo · February 09, 2007, 09:16:22 AM

so he doesn't get credit for taking Dungy's team to the Super Bowl, but he also doesn't get credit for the Raiders team that he played in the Super Bowl? makes sense.

ice grillin you · February 09, 2007, 09:17:50 AM

lol...now gruden sucks because he makes faces

and now not only does he get no credit because he wone with dungys team but the only reason they even won then is because of kiffin...even tho kiffin was the DC under dungy who couldnt win a superbowl

this is all very confusing

i guess dungy is one of the worst coaches in the league since he couldnt even win a superbowl with the great monte kiffin

im beginning to wonder if there are any good coaches in the league besides andy reid

ice grillin you · February 09, 2007, 09:21:15 AM

so he doesn't get credit for taking Dungy's team to the Super Bowl, but he also doesn't get credit for the Raiders team that he played in the Super Bowl?

whats most amazing is that he doesnt get credit for the bucs a team that dungy got blasted for for not being able to go to the superbowl with

basically dungy is a choking dog gruden is a bum and monte kiffin is the best coach ever

PoopyfaceMcGee · February 09, 2007, 09:21:23 AM

Quote from: ice grillin you on February 09, 2007, 09:17:50 AM
im beginning to wonder if there are any good coaches in the league besides andy reid

Nope. He's the bestestest.

SunMo · February 09, 2007, 09:22:10 AM

Quote from: FFatPatt on February 09, 2007, 09:21:23 AM
Nope. He's the bestestest.

bestestest coach....AND parent

rjs246 · February 09, 2007, 10:25:11 AM

So let me get this straight, there are people who would rather have Andy Reid than Gruden as a coach?

The same Gruden who built a superbowl team in Oakland? The same Gruden who took Rich farging Gannon and turned him into a probowler? The same Gruden who took a team who couldn't get over the hump (sound familiar?) and led them to a superbowl championship? The same Gruden who has out-coached the very same coach that you're all defending nearly every time they've ever faced off?

You people get dumber by the farging second.

Diomedes · February 09, 2007, 10:31:33 AM

There aren't many people I wouldn't take over Reid. I'm not a Gruden fan, but I'd swap him in without hesitation if I could. Reid needs to go coach in the football league where character counts instead of talent, where timeouts come in baker's dozens, where the system is more important than the players..BYU for instance. And never come back to the Eagles.

General_Failure · February 09, 2007, 10:31:54 AM

Kiffin also gets too much credit. McKay gave him some nice players, and they played well in his system. Gruden and McKay brought in a QB and a WR to put an offense on the field that didn't consist of just Dunn and Alstott. Just like the Eagles, they beat up some crappy NFC teams and made it into the playoffs. Once he got into the playoffs, Gruden beat a coach he'd worked with in Green Bay. Then he beat a team he knew better than anyone in the superbowl. Good for him.

Since then, he's done nothing good. Players gone. Replacements for them not found. GM chased out of town. Not in that order. And of course, Gruden's famous "blame player Z when things go wrong" technique.

NFC's still weak. So are the Bucs. Hail Gruden.